February 25, 1935

CON

Hugh Alexander Stewart (Minister of Public Works)

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. STEWART (Leeds):

No, that is for fire protection and parks all through the city. The park system is under the control of the federal district commission; it is rather extensive.

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LAB

Abraham Albert Heaps

Labour

Mr. HEAPS:

We have heard the Ottawa

representatives complaining about the amount. There are civic parks in all parts of the dominion and the local authorities are compelled to pay for their own water. Evidently the federal authorities are providing Ottawa with parks at federal expense and in addition we have to provide and pay for the water which we use in the beautification of those parks for the benefit of the people of this city. We have, I suppose, other similar expenditures to consider and I certainly would like to have if possible a little more information from the minister in regard to the equity of this agreement.

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CON

Hugh Alexander Stewart (Minister of Public Works)

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. STEWART (Leeds):

I think the

treatment of the city is fairly generous. I do not know how the members representing the city of Ottawa will take that remark, but when all that is being done by the government in every direction, of which this is only a very small item, is considered, I think after all the city is receiving fair and generous treatment from the government.

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LAB

Abraham Albert Heaps

Labour

Mr. HEAPS:

Would the minister be

prepared to do for other cities what it is doing for Ottawa?

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CON

Hugh Alexander Stewart (Minister of Public Works)

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. STEWART (Leeds):

I believe we

would be prepared to do the same for any other city in which the capital might be located.

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CON

James Arthurs

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. ARTHURS:

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CON

Hugh Alexander Stewart (Minister of Public Works)

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. STEWART (Leeds):

That is a matter which, I understand, is under the control of the city which regulates the traffic on the streets and the signals. I shall see if anything can be done about the matter.

Resolution reported, read the second time and concurred in. Mr. Stewart (Leeds) thereupon moved for leave to introduce Bill No. 23, to

Farm Loan Act

authorize an agreement between His Majesty the King and the corporation of the city of Ottawa.

Motion agreed to and bill read the first time.

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CANADIAN FARM LOAN ACT

AMENDMENT TO FACILITATE AND INCREASE THE EXTENSION OF CREDIT TO FARMERS


The house resumed from Friday, February 15, consideration in committee of Bill No. 15, to amend the Canadian Farm Loan Act-Mr. Rhodes-Mr. Smith (Cumberland!) in the chair. On the short title.


LIB

Jean-François Pouliot

Liberal

Mr. POULIOT:

This bill is supposed to give the farmers a chance to borrow S90,000,000. They need that money. In fact they need much more than that, because as I pointed out on June 6, 1934, as recorded in Hansard, the value of fourteen farm products in 1932, the year of the imperial conference, was

S440,000,000 less than in 1930. Since then the loss has been still greater. It means that since this government came into power the loss to the farmer has been nearly $2,000,000,000 on only fourteen farm products. I see the hon. member for Saskatoon (Mr. MacMillan) laughs.

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CON

Frank Roland MacMillan

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. MacMILLAN (Saskatoon):

I did not.

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LIB

Jean-François Pouliot

Liberal

Mr. POULIOT:

It is a most serious matter and it should not be taken with a laugh.

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CON

Frank Roland MacMillan

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. MACMILLAN (Saskatoon):

I was

reading the paper, I was not talking to you.

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CON

Ernest D'Israeli Smith

Conservative (1867-1942)

The CHAIRMAN (Mr. Smith, Cumberland) :

Order, please direct your remarks to the chair.

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LIB

Jean-François Pouliot

Liberal

Mr. POULIOT:

My words were not

addressed directly to the hon. gentleman, they were addressed to the chair; therefore I am m accord with the rules of procedure in this chamber.

Now, Mr. Chairman, mark you, the loss to the farmers on fourteen farm products only during the five years this government has been in power is $2,000,000,000. Now the government say to the farmers, We will save you by lending you $90,000,000. A nice proportion. This is how they are going to save the farmers. They are proud of their legislation. Some help! Great help, great assistance for those people who in the words of the Prime Minister have shown so much fortitude during these years of stress. Fortitude! They need help; he gives them words. But unfortunately they cannot swallow them

as well as the Prime Minister swallows his own words. And it is better for them not to swallow the words that come from the government because they would make them sick. Here we have this legislation to lend $90,000,000 to the farmers. They need money, but would it not be better if the finance minister came to the house with other legislation, to remove the tariff barriers that prevent the farmers from trading with the other countries of the world.

Who will pay for this? Will the farmer be self-sustaining with that legislation? No, sir, because the finance minister answering the hon. member for West Lambton (Mr. Gray) said, The farmer will have to pay that money back to the government. And that surely is a business proposition. But will it put the farmer on his feet? No, sir. Just humbug once more, just bluff. It is just an expedient to get past election time and afterwards the farmer will not be any better off than before. The government comes with legislation to serve as steps to enable the farmer to get over the tariff wall, but there are no steps and no ladder for him to come down, therefore the farmer is in danger of breaking his neck coming down the high tariff wall that has been built by this government. Sir, although it is necessary to come to the rescue of the farmer I find this legislation silly. If the government had been wise enough, the tariff barriers would have been destroyed and the farmer would not have had to get over this wall, he would have been able to pass through. The only blasting that the Prime Minister should do is to blast his own tariff walls, this would be the most sensible thing.

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An hon. MEMBER:

Will he do it?

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LIB

Jean-François Pouliot

Liberal

Mr. POULIOT:

He has not enough kick to do that. This is what he should use the ruthlessness of his iron heel against; he should destroy these tariff walls and blast them with the dynamite and pep of his supporters.

Sir, here we have legislation which means that a man who has a little money left will have to pay more taxes in order to give the farmer a chance. It is all right to give a chance to the farmer, I am for it, but the Minister of Finance, who is one of the ablest men in the government-

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Some hon. MEMBERS:

Hear, hear.

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LIB

Jean-François Pouliot

Liberal

Mr. POULIOT:

Who is much abler than his own leader-

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February 25, 1935