February 15, 1935

LIB

Edward James Young

Liberal

Mr. YOUNG:

Did they ask for the right to have scrutineers when the ballots were counted?

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CON
LIB
CON

Robert Weir (Minister of Agriculture)

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. WEIR (Melfort):

No, because neither side will have scrutineers. The whole machinery of taking the ballots and counting them is attended to by the officials of the department, and . no scrutineers will be allowed either the sponsors of the scheme cr those opposing it.

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Charles Eugène Pouliot

Mr. POUDIOT:

Was there a war-time elections act for hens?

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UFA

Henry Elvins Spencer

United Farmers of Alberta

Mr. SPENCER:

Did the opponents of the scheme have ample opportunity to place their case before the marketing board?

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CON
UFA

Henry Elvins Spencer

United Farmers of Alberta

Mr. SPENCER:

May I ask a second question. Is the Saskatchewan protective association composed of producers or of retailers?

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CON

Robert Weir (Minister of Agriculture)

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. WEIR (Melfort):

I do not think

we have any information as to the people who comprise it. It is a recent organization.

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LIB

Edward James Young

Liberal

Mr. YOUNG:

The minister has said that

the opponents of the scheme had ample opportunity to place their objections before the marketing board. Will he tell us when

the scheme was approved and also how soon this association received copies of the scheme which were promised in the letter of January 2? They could not oppose it until they knew what it was.

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CON

Robert Weir (Minister of Agriculture)

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. WEIR (Melfort):

The original

scheme was published and had been before the public for months. Notices appeared in the press and it was felt that every opportunity had been given for representation. There had been practically unlimited time and hearings were held, and everything possible was done to receive any objections that had to be made. As a matter of fact, after the hearings had been held, and after I had returned-I had been out of Ottawa-it was felt that there were still those who perhaps did not understand the scheme or who had other objections to raise, and they were asked to come to Ottawa. A session of two days took place, the whole matter being gone into fully. I am of the opinion that these people were satisfied that they had been given every opportunity to present their objections, and everything was done to put the matter before them.

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LIB

Edward James Young

Liberal

Mr. YOUNG:

At this point I ought to

put these questions on the record:

Mr, Young:

1. Did' the dominion marketing board on January 2nd, write to F. J. G. Cunningham, representative of the Saskatchewan Egg and Poultry Producers Protective Association, to the effect that as soon as the order in council with reference to the marketing scheme for eggs and poultry had been passed the board would furnish him with copies of the approved scheme ?

2. Were these copies ever forwarded, and if so. on what date?

3. On what date is the vote on the said scheme to be taken?

The answers are:

Mr. Weir (Melfort):

1. Yes.

2. No. No order in council has been passed approving the marketing scheme for eggs and poultry in Saskatchewan.

3. Fc bruary 16, to February 23, inclusive.

So that this association wrote to the marketing board here asking for copies of the scheme so that they might understand it and be able to decide whether or not they were opposed to it. A letter was sent to them intimating that as soon as the order in council was passed approving the scheme, copies would be forwarded. These copies were never forwarded to them, and these people knew nothing about the matter until notice appeared in the post office stating that the vote would be taken at such and such a time.

Supply-Agriculture

They got into touch with the provincial Minister of Agriculture and asked him whether he had copies of the scheme. He said: no, he had not; he secured copies of them from poultry pool which apparently had copies of the scheme although nobody else had. I want to ask the minister candidly whether he thinks that is giving all interested parties a chance to understand the scheme and place their views before the public?

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CON

Robert Weir (Minister of Agriculture)

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. WHIR (Melfort):

First, as regards

the question: Did the dominion board on January 2 write, and so forth, the answer to that was "yes," but the information that was asked for by Mr. F. J. G. Cunningham was whether, as soon as the order in council with reference to the marketing scheme for eggs and poultry had been passed, the board would furnish him with copies of the approved scheme. No order in council has been passed; this scheme has never been submitted for order in council; but it was felt that because notice of it was published in all the press- the press was filled with discussions of it in paper after paper, the time up to which persons might raise objections to the scheme was given-that was enough. It is perhaps regrettable that in the case of this individual a copy of the scheme was not mailed to him personally at the time, but I still maintain that I do not think he in any way suffered from lack of information as to what the scheme was or of ample time within which to submit any objection to it. We cannot yet supply him with a copy of the scheme as passed by order in council.

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LIB

Edward James Young

Liberal

Mr. YOUNG:

I do not think this man

should be referred to as an individual; he was speaking on behalf of a very large association of people who are vitally interested in this matter. I would like to ask another question. The minister said that hearings were held. I presume they were held in Ottawa.

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CON
LIB

Edward James Young

Liberal

Mr. YOUNG:

Did the proponents of the scheme who came down to advance it have their expenses or any portion of them paid out of the public funds?

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CON
LIB

Edward James Young

Liberal

Mr. YOUNG:

Will they be able to collect those expenses from any of the moneys advanced recently which the minister referred to a few minutes ago?

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CON

Robert Weir (Minister of Agriculture)

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. WEIR (Melfort):

If the scheme is

finally passed and approved, that question may then be given consideration.

[Mr. Young.}

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LIB

Edward James Young

Liberal

Mr. YOUNG:

Then what chance would

these others have had? The minister said that they had ample opportunity to come and make their case heard. Who would pay their expenses?

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February 15, 1935