June 27, 1934

CON

Pierre Édouard Blondin (Speaker of the Senate)

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. SPEAKER:

My recollection is that the hon. member for Winnipeg North Centre has already spoken.

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LAB

James Shaver Woodsworth

Labour

Mr. WOODSWORTH:

I have not yet spoken to the third reading of the bill. I know that some gentlemen on the government side suggest that it is out of order

anyway.

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CON

Richard Bedford Bennett (Prime Minister; President of the Privy Council; Secretary of State for External Affairs)

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. BENNETT:

I desire to raise the question as to its being in order. The amendment does not direct the house to do any specific thing. On the third reading, as I pointed out a moment ago, it is desirable, nay, it is necessary and incumbent upon those who move an amendment, to do one of two things, either to negative the motion for third reading or to move that the bill be read this day six months hence.

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LAB

James Shaver Woodsworth

Labour

Mr. WOODSWORTH:

On the point of order, Mr. Speaker, I submit that the resolution does ask the committee to do a very

specific thing, namely, to safeguard the sovereignty of the parliament of Canada.

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CON

Richard Bedford Bennett (Prime Minister; President of the Privy Council; Secretary of State for External Affairs)

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. BENNETT:

We say that is done.

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LAB

James Shaver Woodsworth

Labour

Mr. WOODSWORTH:

That is a matter of judgment, but it does not affect the point of order. The Minister of Finance (Mr. Rhodes) earlier in the discussion, when an attempt was made to move an amendment, had the following to say, as reported in Hansard of March 8, at page 1291:

Mr. Rhodes: That is the only principle.

The point whether this bank should be publicly or privately owned as well as questions respecting the numerous other details incidental to the bill are matters of detail which can be dealt with by way of amendment in the regular course as we proceed in committee on banking and commerce, or in committee of the whole house, or upon motion on the third reading of the bill.

With that understanding we then postponed the amendment. Now we find apparently that there has come a change in the mind of the government and that the Minister of Finance was quite wrong and that no amendment can be made on the third reading of the bill, looking to the public ownership and control of the bank. I submit that it is a very serious matter if, on great general principles, we are not permitted to have any voice when it comes to the third reading of a bill such as this. I contend, with regard to this particular point of order, that there is a very specific thing which we ask that the committee should do. It is quite true the Prime Minister thinks it is not necessary; that is natural. Some of us think it is necessary, but it is a specific thing which we ask should be done, and I submit on a point of order that this motion is really in order.

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CON

Richard Bedford Bennett (Prime Minister; President of the Privy Council; Secretary of State for External Affairs)

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. BENNETT:

Will the hon. gentleman move the adjournment of the debate, leaving the matter as it stands, in order that, with the consent of the house, I may move the resolution which we agreed would be presented some time before the house rose?

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LAB

James Shaver Woodsworth

Labour

Mr. WOODSWORTH:

Yes, Mr. Speaker;

I shall be glad to move the adjournment of the debate.

Motion agreed to and debate adjourned.

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ADJOURNMENT-BUSINESS OF THE HOUSE MORNING SITTINGS FROM THURSDAY, JUNE 28 UNTIL END OF SESSION

CON

Richard Bedford Bennett (Prime Minister; President of the Privy Council; Secretary of State for External Affairs)

Conservative (1867-1942)

Right Hon. R. B. BENNETT (Prime Minister):

With the consent of the house I

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should like to revert to motions in order to move, seconded by Mr. Guthrie:

That on Thursday, the 28th instant, on Friday the 29th, on Saturday, the 30th, and every sitting day and Saturday thereafter until the end of the session, the house shall meet at 11 o'clock in the morning, and that in addition to the usual intermission at 6 o'clock p.m., there shall be an intermission every day from one to three o'clock, p.m., and the order ot business and procedure shall be the same on Saturday as on Friday.

If that is along the lines of what we agreed to, I should like to move it, first reverting to motions in order that the procedure may be correct.

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LIB

William Lyon Mackenzie King (Leader of the Official Opposition)

Liberal

Mr. MACKENZIE KING:

I would ask the Prime Minister if he would have any objection to having the word "Monday" substituted for the word "Friday", so that the order of business on Saturday would be the same as on Monday?

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CON

Richard Bedford Bennett (Prime Minister; President of the Privy Council; Secretary of State for External Affairs)

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. BENNETT:

For the purpose of

enabling the hon. gentleman to move his motion-

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LIB

William Lyon Mackenzie King (Leader of the Official Opposition)

Liberal

Mr. MACKENZIE KING:

If it is necessary. I do not say that it will be.

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CON

Richard Bedford Bennett (Prime Minister; President of the Privy Council; Secretary of State for External Affairs)

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. BENNETT:

Speaking for the government, the government consents to the right hon. gentleman making any motion he desires to make, but somebody else might object and then he might be precluded; so it is better to substitute the word "Monday" for "Friday." Perhaps, Mr. Speaker, you would substitute the word "Monday" for "Friday" in the motion, so that the order of business on Saturday shall be the same as on Monday.

Motion as amended agreed to.

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LIB

William Lyon Mackenzie King (Leader of the Official Opposition)

Liberal

Mr. MACKENZIE KING:

What will be the first order of business to-morrow-this bill?

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CON

Richard Bedford Bennett (Prime Minister; President of the Privy Council; Secretary of State for External Affairs)

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. BENNETT:

Yes, this bill.

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At six o'clock the house adjourned, without question put pursuant to standing order. Thursday, June 28, 1934


June 27, 1934