June 13, 1934

LIB

Thomas Reid

Liberal

Mr. REID:

I have this objection to subsection 13, that inland waters such as those

of the Fraser river, where for a distance of oyer eighteen miles salt and fresh water combine, are not defined in the bill. If one turns to subsections 35 and 41 he will find that Montreal is mentioned, and the seacoast of Canada shown in subsection 13, but the harbour of a port like New Westminster is not mentioned and should be. The words "inland waters" of the Fraser river should be in that definition.

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CON

Richard Bedford Bennett (Prime Minister; President of the Privy Council; Secretary of State for External Affairs)

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. BENNETT:

The coast of Canada does not mean the inland waters; the hon. gentleman must take the definitions as we proceed with them. The coast of a country means simply what it says, namely the sea coast, the salt water bays, the gulfs and harbours on the sea coast of Canada. We must keep in mind the relative jurisdictions of the provinces and the dominion. The coast of the country is the contour following the parts touching salt water. There are other definitions dealing with the other points.

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LIB

Thomas Reid

Liberal

Mr. REID:

The representations were made to me by a man well versed in shipping, and one who has had life experience in shipping matters, and he says that as a matter of international law a question might arise.

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CON

Richard Bedford Bennett (Prime Minister; President of the Privy Council; Secretary of State for External Affairs)

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. BENNETT:

Well, unfortunately he does not know what he is talking about.

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CON

Richard Bedford Bennett (Prime Minister; President of the Privy Council; Secretary of State for External Affairs)

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. BENNETT:

I am sorry to say that, because this definition cannot be modified without making it silly. The coast of a country is simply the coast of a country, not the rivers, or anything else.

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LIB

Thomas Reid

Liberal

Mr. REID:

If the Prime Minister would look at subsections 35 and 41 he would see there definitions given concerning certain ports, and also ports on the salt water.

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CON

Richard Bedford Bennett (Prime Minister; President of the Privy Council; Secretary of State for External Affairs)

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. BENNETT:

That is another thing

altogether.

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LIB

Thomas Reid

Liberal

Mr. REID:

It is complementary to subsection 13. That shows the difficulty we are having here in committee when we attempt to put amendments. I have here a legitimate amendment concerning the port of New Westminster, and the Prime Minister just throws it out and says it is not necessary. If that is the way I am to be treated I shall have to join the others in their protests.

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LAB

Humphrey Mitchell

Labour

Mr. MITCHELL:

I believe it was yesterday the Minister of Marine made the observation that he had had communications in the form of telegrams from some marine organi-

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zations asking that the bill be passed or pressed forward. Could he tell me the names of those organizations, and from whom he received the communications?

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CON

Alfred Duranleau (Minister of Fisheries; Minister of Marine)

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. DURANLEAU:

I gave the names yesterday. There was the National Association of Marine Engineers, Council No. 8. I had a communication from the Shipping Federation of Canada, an organization with branches throughout the dominion.

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CON

Alfred Duranleau (Minister of Fisheries; Minister of Marine)

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. DURANLEAU:

No, that was the other one. I received a wire from the Canada Steamship Lines, Limited, and a telegram from the executive council of the Canadian Navigation Federation, St. Lawrence division. The last communication I received was as follows:

Respectfully submit very important shipping bill should go through and become law this session.

This telegram was signed by Mr. C. B. Hamelin.

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LAB

Humphrey Mitchell

Labour

Mr. MITCHELL:

I am interested in the National Association of Marine Engineers, and I should like to know whether that organization spoke for the national association or for only one of the councils.

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CON

Alfred Duranleau (Minister of Fisheries; Minister of Marine)

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. DURANLEAU:

For one of the

councils.

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LAB
CON

Alfred Duranleau (Minister of Fisheries; Minister of Marine)

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. DURANLEAU:

They spoke for No. 8.

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CON

Alfred Duranleau (Minister of Fisheries; Minister of Marine)

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. DURANLEAU:

I stated that yesterday.

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June 13, 1934