An hon. member says, the marketing bill. For the moment I do not want even to mention the marketing bill; I will confine myself to this measure. This bill is camouflaged with the word "hospital" and under the guise of "hospital" it is supposed that gambling will be legal for the Canadian people so far as raising money for hospitals is concerned. I should like to know who is behind this bill. What combination of interests in this country is behind this legislation and hiding behind the question of subsidizing and making contributions to hospitals by this method? It has been stated to-night by the Minister of Justice (Mr. Guthrie)-and I think it is correct-that about only eighteen per cent of the money contributed through such sources as this, sweepstake contributions and' prices for tickets, reaches the destination to which it is supposed to go. What becomes of the other eighty-two per cent? I will admit that some proportion of it goes for the prizes, but beyond that it is nothing more nor less than a racket. And it will be a racket in this country if this bill passes the house. Let me say that I am not pretending to be on any high moral plane in regard to gambling, out any hon. member of this house who has oeen a member of the banking and commerce :ommittee this session and has listened from lay to day to the evidence given before that jommittee by the general managers of the oanks will remember that in almost every nstance they have said that the world condition and the condition in which we find ourselves in Canada to-day is largely due to gambling. And this bill, to my mind, has to do with nothing more or less than legalized gambling. If the bill becomes law it will be the beginning of more extensive legalized gambling, and gambling is a disease. I am not going back to ancient history to prove that because I want to deal with present world conditions and present conditions in our own country. It is a disease. Once you get the germ it is pretty hard to shake it. If our young men and young women, the rising generation of this country, are told that it is legal for them to spend their money, to gamble in sweepstakes for the maintenance of hospitals-and if they have not got it themselves they will borrow it or
get it in some way-you are to my mind building on a wrong foundation for the future of this country.
So I cannot support this bill. It is possible that I might favour some kind of bill for sweepstakes. I am not going to spend the time to say what kind of bill would suit me; I am not absolutely opposed to the sale of sweepstake tickets, but I am opposed to the sale of sweepstake tickets under the guise of contributions to hospitals.
I am sorry if I have delayed the house at this late hour but I wanted briefly to put myself on record, and I hope if it comes to a vote to-night that the bill will be defeated.
Subtopic: BILL TO LEGALIZE LOTTERIES WHEN CONDUCTED BY PROVINCES