March 13, 1934

CON

Richard Bedford Bennett (Prime Minister; President of the Privy Council; Secretary of State for External Affairs)

Conservative (1867-1942)

Right Hon. R. B. BENNETT (Prime Minister):

Mr. Speaker, the answer is in

the negative.

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ROYAL CANADIAN MOUNTED POLICE


Hon. HUGH GUTHRIE (Minister of Justice) moved the third reading of Bill No. 22, to amend the Royal Canadian Mounted Police Act. Motion agreed to and bill read the third time and passed. Supply-Fisheries-C onservation


CANADIAN NATIONAL RAILWAYS

AGREEMENT RESPECTING TRACKS AND PREMISES AT SAINT JOHN


Hon. R. J. MANION (Minister of Railways) moved the third reading of Bill No. 23, to ratify and confirm the agreement respecting the joint use by the Canadian Pacific Railway Company of certain tracks and premises of His Majesty at Saint John, N.B. Motion agreed to and bill read the third time and passed.


AGREEMENT BETWEEN CANADIAN NORTHERN ONTARIO RAILWAY COMPANY AND THE CAMPBELLFORD, LAKE ONTARIO AND WESTERN RAILWAY COMPANY


Hon. R. J. MANION (Minister of Railways) moved the third reading of Bill No. 24, to ratify and confirm an agreement made between the Canadian Northern Ontario Railway Company and the Campbellford, Lake Ontario and Western Railway Company. Motion agreed to and bill read the third time and passed.


FRUIT ACT AMENDMENT


Hon. ROBERT WEIR (Minister of Agriculture) moved the second reading of Bill No. 26, an act respecting fruit. Motion agreed to, bill read the second time and referred to the select standing committee on agriculture and colonization.


DEPARTMENT OF FISHERIES


The house in committee of supply, Mr. Morand in the chair. Fisheries-to assist in the conservation and development of the deep sea fisheries and the demand for fish, $85,000.


LIB

Joseph-Arthur Bradette

Liberal

Mr. BRADETTE:

I think it is in order to ask the minister what I asked yesterday on the same estimate, as to the intention of the government or the department in regard to Hudson bay and James bay.

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CON

Alfred Duranleau (Minister of Fisheries; Minister of Marine)

Conservative (1867-1942)

Hon. ALFRED DURANLEAU (Acting Minister of Fisheries):

I listened yesterday with great attention to my hon. friend in regard to the possibilities for the fishing industry in Hudson bay and James bay. I have discussed the matter with my officials and I must state frankly that we cannot contemplate any further investigation in those bays this year. It may be that in the future we can do something, but not this year. I may state to my hon. friend for his information that private interests are extensively concerned in the fishing industry in those waters.

As a matter of fact, we are helping as much as possible all those who desire to enter the fishing industry there. In 1931 we issued three fishing permits; in 1932 four other permits for fishing in those bays, in 1933 we issued four permits, and this year we have issued one permit to the Albany River Fishing Company, Limited. We anticipate that many other companies will start fishing next summer. The department is quite satisfied that surveys have been made, are being made and will be made during the coming season by those private concerns in order to locate the best spots for fishing in those waters.

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LIB

Joseph-Arthur Bradette

Liberal

Mr. BRADETTE:

Will the minister tell the committee if those private concerns have any direction from the government to make those inquiries? As the minister appreciates, my question relates to an expanse of water of nearly 700,000 square miles, so unless those private concerns go there with definite direction from the government they are not likely to make an investigation for the sake of the government. I appreciate what the minister has said, but will he be a little more explicit as to when we might expect a more thorough inquiry to be made?

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CON

Alfred Duranleau (Minister of Fisheries; Minister of Marine)

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. DURANLEAU:

The report of the

investigation made in 1930 might be of some use to those interested, and I may add that a few days ago I had a request from a certain individual who wants permits for several fishing boats. That gentleman told me that he knew the best spots for fishing in those two. bays, and that other people also knew where to go. So at the moment I do not think it would be advisable for the government to incur the expense of a further survey. If in future we have such requests from various parties we will look into the matter and see if we would be justified in making a further survey.

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LIB

Joseph-Arthur Bradette

Liberal

Mr. BRADETTE:

I may tell the minister that the request comes from that entire section of the country, and surely the pressure should be as great coming from the people living in that country as it would be coming from people directly interested in the fidhing. I believe the government owes it to itse'lf and to our section of the country to take the lead in such an investigation and not leave it to private interests. I think they should take the initiative, and I believe the work should be wholly under the direction of the government.

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CON

Richard Burpee Hanson

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. HANSON (York-Sunbury):

I should

like to ask my hon. friend if it is not true that in 1930 the then Minister of Fisheries

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did have an investigation made into the possibilities of commercial fishing in Hudson bay, and that the report was adverse?

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LIB

Joseph-Arthur Bradette

Liberal

Mr. BRADETTE:

The report was adverse, but the investigation took only a short time.

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LIB

Joseph Philippe Baby Casgrain

Liberal

Mr. CASGRAIN:

I should like to ask the minister if he has any report to give the committee with reference to the negotiations that were supposed to be going on between his department and the government of Quebec with regard to increased cooperation between the provincial and federal governments. I remember that a long debate took place in this house two or three years ago, and the then Minister of Fisheries, who is now Minister of Finance, said there would be cooperation as far as this government could bring it about between the federal and provincial governments. I saw in the press some time after that some mention of interviews between the minister who is piloting these estimates today and officials of the provincial government with the view of improving conditions in Quebec. I should like to ask the minister if he has any report to give tthe committee as to the progress that has been made along these lines.

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March 13, 1934