March 1, 1934

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Eccles James Gott

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. GOTT:

You will never live long enough to see it happen.

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Robert Charles Matthews (Minister of National Revenue)

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. MATTHEWS:

In spite of my hon.

friend's last remark I shall be glad to look into the matter, and get a report from the inspector.

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James Layton Ralston

Liberal

Mr. RALSTON:

I want to ask the minister in regard to a complaint I have received from those interested in the butter business in Nova Scotia as to the release of some 8,000 boxes of New Zealand butter on February 22. The complaint was that the dairymen's association and the men in the creamery business down there were not consulted, but word seemed to have gotten out in some way to the packing houses that this butter was to be released, with the result that on the twentieth the packing houses began to sell and consequently cut the price from one to two cents. I have here a copy of the newspaper of February 23 announcing it; I presume the order was made on February 22. The Nova Scotia creameries have lost one to two cents a pound on butter on account of the drop in price, due, they feel, to some leak whereby the release of this New Zealand butter got to the ears of the packers. Was the minister concerned in that himself?

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Robert Charles Matthews (Minister of National Revenue)

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. MATTHEWS:

Not primarily concerned, but I happen to know something about it. But in the period the hon, member speaks of, when it was known that this butter was in Halifax, the price did not drop; it advanced from 26i cents to 30 cents in Montreal.

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Robert Charles Matthews (Minister of National Revenue)

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. MATTHEWS:

I think there was a

general advance in price. If the suggestion is that notice was released to any individual or large importer before others, that is not so; there is nothing in that.

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James Layton Ralston

Liberal

Mr. RALSTON:

I assure my hon. friend

-I need not say it, he knows it,-that I do not suggest for an instant that the release could have taken place with his knowledge. But I have received a letter to-night from a responsible creamery operator in Nova Scotia, expressing very keen feeling about the situation which developed there. I understand the Nova Scotia Dairymen's Association wired the minister protesting against the release of the butter for at least four or six weeks. Similar wires sent by farmers' organizations. Notwithstanding these protests I understand the butter was released on February 22, and there was a fall in the price of butter that week of two cents a pound. Those are the facts given to me.

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Robert Charles Matthews (Minister of National Revenue)

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. MATTHEWS:

If the hon. member

will allow me to suggest it, I should like to go into thatt with him privately. I cannot see how any loss has taken place, for we have information that from the time this butter was landed in Halifax until to-day or yesterday there has been a continual advance in the price of butter both in Toronto and Montreal, and I presume in the maritimes.

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James Layton Ralston

Liberal

Mr. RALSTON:

I shall be very glad

indeed to go into it with the minister.

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Robert Charles Matthews (Minister of National Revenue)

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. MATTHEWS:

I think I can assure

the hon. member that the matteT was so handled that; there was no flooding of the market and no fall in price.

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James Layton Ralston

Liberal

Mr. RALSTON:

Let me read one expression from the letter:

As a result of this release and the apparent advance information Nova Scotia creameries have lost two cents per pound on butter sold v 1Si w,ee'c- The buyer is now using New Zealand butter as an argument to buy at still lower prices.

It is quite obvious that the dairy industry was not considered in this matter. No doubt this industry as a whole will protest the action at this time.

They did protest. I have no doubt the minister has had wires from them.

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Robert Charles Matthews (Minister of National Revenue)

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. MATTHEWS:

Yes, I have had wires. Just what do they protest against.

Supply-National Revenue

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James Layton Ralston

Liberal

Mr. RALSTON:

Against the release of

the butter for from four to six weeks.

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Robert Charles Matthews (Minister of National Revenue)

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. MATTHEWS:

The market was advancing all the time when the butter was released. Certainly I cannot see any disadvantage to the butter market through the small amount that came.

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James Layton Ralston

Liberal

Mr. RALSTON:

I merely point it out to

the minister. I suppose he will agree that neither he nor I would understand the situation in regard to the market as well as the dairymen's association and the farmers' associations.

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Robert Charles Matthews (Minister of National Revenue)

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. MATTHEWS:

Well, I think my hon. friend and I are both capable of reading the quotations in the press and seeing what the price is.

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James Layton Ralston

Liberal

Mr. RALSTON:

I am pointing out that

there must be some mistake, because this is a responsible gentleman and he says the creameries have lost two cents a pound on butter sold this week. I am quite willing to accept my hon. friend's invitation and discuss the matter with him privately, and I do not mind showing him the letter.

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Robert Charles Matthews (Minister of National Revenue)

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. MATTHEWS:

I think Nova Scotia

produces perhaps one third of the butter it uses?

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March 1, 1934