February 16, 1934

OFFICIAL REPORT OF DEBATES

RIGHT OP MEMBER TO REVISE REMARKS

CON

Richard Bedford Bennett (Prime Minister; President of the Privy Council; Secretary of State for External Affairs)

Conservative (1867-1942)

Right Hon. R. B. BENNETT (Prime Minister):

Mr. Speaker, it becomes my unfortunate duty to deal with a matter affecting the privileges of the house. My attention was directed to the fact that during the course of a speech in the house the night before last the hon. member for Temiscouata (Mr. Pouliot) said:

I am not in favour of an election this year.

That remark does not appear in Hansard, and it now transpires that the words were taken down by the Hansard reporter and struck out of the report by the hon. gentleman. I hold the original manuscript in my

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hand. Though as much care as can be exercised is taken in connection with these matters I think it well to direct attention to the fact that the privileges extended to members do not permit of the elimination from their remarks of statements of this kind.

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IND

Joseph Henri Napoléon Bourassa

Independent

Mr. BOURASSA:

I quite agree with the Prime Minister, Mr. Speaker, but I could quote an instance where one of his ministers struck out a passage from one of his speeches last year which made it appear exactly opposite to what he had said. Since then, however, he has taken a flight to Egypt.

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CON

Albert Joseph Brown

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. BROWN:

I have had occasion before this to believe that members have struck out portions of their speeches. We shall have to be more watchful in future.

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CON

Richard Bedford Bennett (Prime Minister; President of the Privy Council; Secretary of State for External Affairs)

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. BENNETT:

I believe the rule has been that grammatical errors and defects of that sort are corrected. In one case I made some inquiries when it was brought to my attention that substantial changes had been made in a speech; the matter was brought to the attention of the house, and the Hansard authorities were advised that it was not competent for anyone to change the sense of a speech. There may be errors in transcription or there may be errors made in taking down the remarks of the speaker because of noise in the chamber. Those are matters with which members may be expected to deal quite properly. I recall in my own case that on one occasion there was a noise in the chamber and Hansard sent for me saying that because of the noise they had not been able to take down what had been said, and wanting to know if I could assist them. I gave them my notes, such as they were-they were not very helpful-and I am bound to say that the report was not entirely intelligent. In this case, however, the words were heard and transcribed, but they have been struck out by the hon. gentleman who used them. It becomes somewhat important for the reason that a few moments previously the former Minister of Justice (Mr. Lapointe) had been speaking of the necessity for an early appeal to the country. Then one of the distinguished members opposite, who frequently speaks for the Liberal party, said he was not in favour of an election this year, and though Hansard took down these words they were struck out by the hon. member.

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LIB

William Lyon Mackenzie King (Leader of the Official Opposition)

Liberal

Right Hon. W. L. MACKENZIE KING (Leader of the Opposition):

I think I heard the remark that was made by the hon. member for Temiscouata. I do not know how much of the text he removed, but the remark

about not being in favour of an election this year was associated with a further remark, provided that the present leader of the government was not retained as leader. If the hon. member for Temiscouata struck that out he evidently felt .that he did not wish to reflect upon the present Prime Minister.

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CON

Richard Bedford Bennett (Prime Minister; President of the Privy Council; Secretary of State for External Affairs)

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. BENNETT:

No, he left that in. The very courteous observation made by the right hon. gentleman makes it possible for me to read the whole sentence as it was taken down by the reporter and transcribed into typewriting. It was as follows:

I am not in favour of an election this year; we can wait another year, provided that the Conservative party .and the government select another leader to devise new measures and carry on for another year.

What appears, as amended in the handwriting of the hon. member, is this: first, there is the deletion of the words "I am not in favour of an election this year." Then the following words appear:

We might wait another year for an election -provided that the Conservative party and the government select another leader-and try the administration for a year longer under that new leadership.

The last twelve words are in the handwriting of the hon. member, so he did not remove that portion of his observations.

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LIB

Jean-François Pouliot

Liberal

Mr. POULIOT:

I am glad the right hon. gentleman has taken notice of that fact.

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CIVIL SERVICE

APPOINTMENT OF SPECIAL COMMITTEE TO INQUIRE INTO ADMINISTRATION AND OPERATION OF CIVIL SERVICE ACT

CON

Richard Bedford Bennett (Prime Minister; President of the Privy Council; Secretary of State for External Affairs)

Conservative (1867-1942)

Right Hon. R. B. BENNETT (Prime Minister) moved:

That a select special committee of this house be appointed, to consist of seven members, to be hereinafter named, to inquire into and report upon the administration and operation of the Civil Service Act as amended, with instructions to inquire into and report concerning the repeal or amendment of any of the provisions of the said .act or the substitution therefor or addition thereto of other provisions, as the committee may deem advisable, with power to send for persons, papers and records, and to examine witnesses, and to report from time to time to this house.

He said: In moving this motion I believe I should say that it is moved in consequence of the recommendation of the select special committee which was set up a couple of years ago. At that time it was suggested that at each session there should be set up a select special committee to deal with any problems which might arise in connection with the Civil

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Service Act, its operation, and administration. In furtherance of that suggestion, this motion is made. I know of no reason other than that as to why the motion should be made at the present, time, but I now move the motion in consequence of that representation.

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LIB

Charles A. Stewart

Liberal

Mr. STEWART (Edmonton):

May I ask

the Prime Minister if that statement applies to the committee on radio broadcasting?

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CON

Richard Bedford Bennett (Prime Minister; President of the Privy Council; Secretary of State for External Affairs)

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. BENNETT :

No, this is in connection

with the Civil Service Act.

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LIB

Peter John Veniot

Liberal

Mr. VENIOT:

Does the Prime Minister

know of any problems which have arisen since last session or since the report of the last committee was presented which would necessitate the appointment this session of a committee ?

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CON

Richard Bedford Bennett (Prime Minister; President of the Privy Council; Secretary of State for External Affairs)

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. BENNETT:

I know of no specific

matters of great import, except that there are always numbers who are not selected for positions to which they think they should be appointed.

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Clarence Joseph Veniot

Mr. VEINIOT:

But that is not a matter

of investigation.

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CON

Richard Bedford Bennett (Prime Minister; President of the Privy Council; Secretary of State for External Affairs)

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. BENNETT:

That is a matter of

course, and is not peculiar. The motion has . no significance except, as I say, it is in pursuance of the understanding arrived at that such committee would be set up so that hon. members of the house, if they have representations to make in connection with the administration of the act, may have an opportunity to do so.

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LIB

William Lyon Mackenzie King (Leader of the Official Opposition)

Liberal

Mr. MACKENZIE KING:

Is it the intention of the government to refer to this committee Bill No. 4 now before the house, the one which was introduced by the Secretary of State (Mr. Cahan) respecting the Bureau for Translations?

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CON

Richard Bedford Bennett (Prime Minister; President of the Privy Council; Secretary of State for External Affairs)

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. BENNETT:

Yes.

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February 16, 1934