February 13, 1934

SERGEANT AT ARMS

CON

Pierre Édouard Blondin (Speaker of the Senate)

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. SPEAKER:

I have the honour to inform the house that His Excellency the Governor General has approved of the appointment of Major Milton Fowler Gregg, V.C., M.C., and Bar, as Sergeant at Arms of this house.

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PRICE SPREADS AND MASS BUYING

CON

Richard Bedford Bennett (Prime Minister; President of the Privy Council; Secretary of State for External Affairs)

Conservative (1867-1942)

Right Hon. R. B. BENNETT (Prime Minister) moved:

That the Hon. H. H. Stevens and Messrs. Banbeau, Bell (St. John-Albert), Boulanger, Edwards, Factor, Usley, Kennedy (Peace River), Kennedy (Winnipeg South Centre), Senn and Young, form the committee appointed on Friday, the 2nd of February, 1934, to inquire into the causes of spread in prices of commodities, the system of distribution of farm, natural and manufactured products, etc.

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Motion agreed to.


PRIVATE BILL

FIRST READING


Bill No. 13, respecting the Buffalo and Fort Erie Public Bridge Company.-Mr. Stinson.


PRIVILEGE-MR. LUCAS


On the orders of the day:


UFA

William Thomas Lucas

United Farmers of Alberta

Mr. W. T. LUCAS (Camrose):

I rise to a question of privilege. Yesterday, on the orders of the day, I quoted from a Canadian Press dispatch to the effect that several conferences had been held between the Right Hon. the Prime Minister (Mr. Bennett) and the Minister of Finance (Mr. Rhodes), on the one hand, and sundry officials connected with the Canadian Bankers' Association on the other. The dispatch also further implied that as a result of the said conferences the proposed banking legislation had been redrafted several times. On the basis of this dispatch I then asked what I considered to be a perfectly proper question, and one which was intended to be neither humorous nor offensive. I inquired whether interests other than those connected with banking institutions were being consulted on this important ques-

Privilege-Mr. Lucas

tion. I was unable at the time to hear the Prime Minister's reply, but later on reading Hansard and also the press, I discovered that that reply made an unfavourable reference to my conduct in this house. The Prime Minister's remarks will be found on page 460 of Hansard as follows:

If the hon. gentleman was as assiduous in the discharge of his duties as in endeavouring to make unnecessary trouble it would be really better for this country.

I might pass over the suggestion about my being a trouble maker, but the implied statement by the Prime Minister that the member for Camrose is negligent in the discharge of his duties is one which I am not prepared to accept, even from the right hon. gentleman, and I demand that these remarks be withdrawn.

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Richard Bedford Bennett (Prime Minister; President of the Privy Council; Secretary of State for External Affairs)

Conservative (1867-1942)

Right Hon. R. B. BENNETT (Prime Minister):

Mr. Speaker, I do not think that

the statement which the hon. gentleman has made is a correct statement of what transpired; the question that he asked was somewhat different from what he has just stated. He read an extract from a newspaper-which is against the rules of the house-and made this observation:

That is all I wish to quote. I want to ask the Prime Minister, because I do not want to give a wrong interpretation to the article, is this Bank Act being revised and the legislation for a central bank being drafted to suit the bankers only or are other interests being considered ?

Obviously that question did not require any serious answer, and the answer was:

If the hon. gentleman was as assiduous in the discharge of his duties as in endeavouring to make unnecessary trouble it would be really better for this country.

That is a fair statement, and it represents no aspersion on the hon. gentleman; because, to suggest that the government was legislating for the bankers only and not for the people, is something which no government would have the right to treat as a serious question, based on a newspaper article which itself should not have been read.

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UFA

William Thomas Lucas

United Farmers of Alberta

Mr. LUCAS:

I am not prepared to accept

that explanation. I refer you, Mr. Speaker, to standing order 41, paragraph 297. The Prime Minister distinctly implied that I was not assiduous in my duties in this house-

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CON

Richard Bedford Bennett (Prime Minister; President of the Privy Council; Secretary of State for External Affairs)

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. BENNETT:

Not a bit.

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UFA

William Thomas Lucas

United Farmers of Alberta

Mr. LUCAS:

Yesterday, on the orders of

the day, Mr. Speaker, one of the members supporting the government appealed for your decision against the hon. member for Macdonald (Mr. Weir), in relation to a similar

occurrence, and that hon. gentleman was asked by Your Honour to withdraw.

Mr. BENNETT The two things are not the same at all.

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CON

Pierre Édouard Blondin (Speaker of the Senate)

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. SPEAKER:

What is the point of

order raised by the hon. member?

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UFA

William Thomas Lucas

United Farmers of Alberta

Mr. LUCAS:

On a perfectly proper question which I asked in the house yesterday and which called for a civil reply, the Prime Minister stated as reported on page 460 of Hansard:

If the hon. gentleman was as assiduous in the discharge of his duties as in endeavouring to make unnecessary trouble it would be really better for this country.

He has distinctly implied something against my conduct as a member and which is contrary to the rules of the house.

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CON

Pierre Édouard Blondin (Speaker of the Senate)

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. SPEAKER:

The question as asked was undoubtedly out of order and the fact that the Prime Minister chose to make the reply that he did to the hon. member asking the question is a matter for the right hon. gentleman; if he is of opinion that another hon. member is making unnecessary trouble, it is not out of order to say so.

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UFA

William Thomas Lucas

United Farmers of Alberta

Mr. LUCAS:

I insist that the Prime

Minister was imputing improper motives to myself as a member of this house.

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February 13, 1934