May 11, 1933

CON
LIB

Jean-François Pouliot

Liberal

Mr. POULIOT (Translation):

Has the hon. Postmaster General increased Laurent's salary by 10 cents per hour, since March 17?

Topic:   POST OFFICE DEPARTMENT
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CON

Armand Renaud La Vergne (Deputy Speaker and Chair of Committees of the Whole of the House of Commons)

Conservative (1867-1942)

The CHAIRMAN (Translation):

The hon. member is not observing the rules of the house. We are not in committee of public accounts. We cannot spend the time of the house in questions and cross-questions of that kind. The hon. member fully knows the rules of the house. He may put questions and he certainly has a right to criticize all the expenditure of the department and its administration; however, it is not the spirit of the committee of the whole, of the finance committee to put cross-questions of that kind; the place for that is the public accounts committee. Let the hon. member criticize, let him request certain information, but I cannot allow such a cross-examination.

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LIB

Jean-François Pouliot

Liberal

Mr. POULIOT (Translation):

I have but one observation to make to the chairman: The minister who has his estimates voted with the least difficulty is the Minister of Public Works. We follow the same routine when he brings down his estimates; we put questions to him and he always answers.

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CON

Armand Renaud La Vergne (Deputy Speaker and Chair of Committees of the Whole of the House of Commons)

Conservative (1867-1942)

The CHAIRMAN (Translation):

I am not the Minister of Public Works, I am the chairman of the committee.

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LIB

Jean-François Pouliot

Liberal

Mr. POULIOT (Translation):

Would you kindly inform me, sir, under what rule I am debarred from questioning the minister when he submits his estimates? Am I obliged to make a 40-minute speech or am I free to question him on matters relating to his department?

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CON

Armand Renaud La Vergne (Deputy Speaker and Chair of Committees of the Whole of the House of Commons)

Conservative (1867-1942)

The CHAIRMAN (Translation):

The hon. member has been long enough in the house to know that a cross-examination like he has just made cannot be directed against ministers. He may criticize; however, the examination of accounts is discussed in the public accounts committee.

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LIB
CON

Armand Renaud La Vergne (Deputy Speaker and Chair of Committees of the Whole of the House of Commons)

Conservative (1867-1942)

The CHAIRMAN (Translation):

Whether the hon. member has any ground of quarrel or not with the minister has no bearing on the matter; but the observance of the rules of the house has.

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LIB

Jean-François Pouliot

Liberal

Mr. POULIOT (Translation):

What rule,

sir, prevents me from putting questions to the minister?

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CON

Armand Renaud La Vergne (Deputy Speaker and Chair of Committees of the Whole of the House of Commons)

Conservative (1867-1942)

The CHAIRMAN (Translation):

I have

no objection to the hon. member putting questions to the minister.

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LIB

Jean-François Pouliot

Liberal

Mr. POULIOT (Translation):

You have no objection that I ask questions to the minister?

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CON

Armand Renaud La Vergne (Deputy Speaker and Chair of Committees of the Whole of the House of Commons)

Conservative (1867-1942)

The CHAIRMAN (Translation):

This

questioning might be quite proper in the public accounts' committee. In my opinion, it is discourteous and not in order in this committee.

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LIB

Jean-François Pouliot

Liberal

Mr. POULIOT (Translation):

Mr. Chairman, will you quote the rule of the house on which you base your decision?

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CON

Armand Renaud La Vergne (Deputy Speaker and Chair of Committees of the Whole of the House of Commons)

Conservative (1867-1942)

The CHAIRMAN (Translation):

It is the rule which governs general discussion. I quoted it the other day in the house. I have given my decision. The hon. member has had the whole session to look up the rule.

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LIB

Jean-François Pouliot

Liberal

Mr. POULIOT (Translation):

If you wish me to deliver a speech on the subject, the Postmaster General will get nowhere.

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CON

Armand Renaud La Vergne (Deputy Speaker and Chair of Committees of the Whole of the House of Commons)

Conservative (1867-1942)

The CHAIRMAN (Translation):

That

does not concern me.

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CON

Arthur Sauvé (Postmaster General)

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. SAUVE (Translation):

The hon. member may proceed and show that he is better disposed.

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CON

Armand Renaud La Vergne (Deputy Speaker and Chair of Committees of the Whole of the House of Commons)

Conservative (1867-1942)

The CHAIRMAN (Translation):

Yes, he could show a better observance of the rules.

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CON

Arthur Sauvé (Postmaster General)

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. SAUVE (Translation):

I would request, sir, that you make allowance for his future good intentions.

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May 11, 1933