May 4, 1933

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Wesley Ashton Gordon (Minister of Immigration and Colonization; Minister of Labour; Minister of Mines)

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. GORDON:

Yes, that includes the amount of interest involved, and the balance of it-and I want to make myself clear on that-is purely an estimated amount depending, of course, upon the settlers' ability to pay.

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CON

Wesley Ashton Gordon (Minister of Immigration and Colonization; Minister of Labour; Minister of Mines)

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. GORDON:

I was just explaining the bill generally in answer to the request of the hon. member for Shelburne-Yarmouth, but probably we had better start with the first subsection and continue in that way.

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Armand Renaud La Vergne (Deputy Speaker and Chair of Committees of the Whole of the House of Commons)

Conservative (1867-1942)

The CHAIRMAN:

Is it the pleasure of the committee that we take the bill up subsection by subsection?

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Some hon. MEMBERS:

Yes.

On new section 72-Certain interest charges remitted.

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James J. Donnelly

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. DONNELLY:

What did it cost in Saskatchewan last year for the administration of this act, for the supervisors looking after the soldier settlers, and what amount of money was collected from the soldier settlers there last year on this land scheme?

Private Bills

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Wesley Ashton Gordon (Minister of Immigration and Colonization; Minister of Labour; Minister of Mines)

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. GORDON:

While that is being looked up, I should like to answer the question asked by the hon. member for Red Deer. The 1932 interest that would be remitted is $2,250,000. The bonuses as estimated are as follows:

Year Amount

1933 $1,500,000

1934 1,500,000

1935 1,500,000

1930 (Prepayment for) 500,000

With this $5,000,000 and the remitted interest the total is $7,250,000, part, namely, the interest, a sum certain and ascertained, and the balance estimated according to the ability of the settlers to take advantage of it.

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James J. Donnelly

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. DONNELLY:

I was asking for the cost of administering the act in Saskatchewan in the past year.

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Wesley Ashton Gordon (Minister of Immigration and Colonization; Minister of Labour; Minister of Mines)

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. GORDON:

The accounts of the soldier settlement board are not completely divided with respect to provinces, but the salaries in Saskatchewan amounted in the year ended March 31, 1933, to $106,915.65.

Mr. DONNELLY': What was collected by way of interest in that province?

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Wesley Ashton Gordon (Minister of Immigration and Colonization; Minister of Labour; Minister of Mines)

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. GORDON:

The collections from April 1, 1932, to March 31, 1933, amounted to $317,957.94.

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Alfred Speakman

United Farmers of Alberta

Mr. SPEAKMAN:

Can the minister give us similar figures as to Alberta, of the salaries paid and the amounts received?

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Wesley Ashton Gordon (Minister of Immigration and Colonization; Minister of Labour; Minister of Mines)

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. GORDON:

In Saskatchewan the

amount of the loans as of January 31, 1933, was $14,297,421.49. The amount of the loans in southern Alberta as of the same date was $8,076,149, and for northern Alberta, $9,229,431.61. The amount of the collections in southern Alberta from April 1, 1932, to March 31, 1933, was $169,407.71, and the amount of the salaries $61,437.60, The amount of collections for northern Alberta for the same period was $216,400.97 and the amount of the salaries $80,584.20.

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James J. Donnelly

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. DONNELLY:

When the minister

speaks of salaries, does that include travelling expenses?

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Wesley Ashton Gordon (Minister of Immigration and Colonization; Minister of Labour; Minister of Mines)

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. GORDON:

No.

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CON

Wesley Ashton Gordon (Minister of Immigration and Colonization; Minister of Labour; Minister of Mines)

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. GORDON:

Yes.

Mr. DONNELLY': Do you supply cars for the inspectors?

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Wesley Ashton Gordon (Minister of Immigration and Colonization; Minister of Labour; Minister of Mines)

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. GORDON:

Yes, the cars tare supplied by the department to the field supervisors and to those who look after the collections. The number of cars has been very greatly reduced throughout Canada, from 164 to 120. There may be some further reductions that can be made.

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John Vallance

Liberal

Mr. VALLANCE:

The minister gave a certain figure which under the Soldier Settlement Act was loaned to settlers in the province of Saskatchewan. Did that include advances 'to settlers under the three thousand family scheme?

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Wesley Ashton Gordon (Minister of Immigration and Colonization; Minister of Labour; Minister of Mines)

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. GORDON:

Yes, that included the amount loaned.

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