March 29, 1932

LIB

William Richard Motherwell

Liberal

Mr. MOTHERWELL:

My understanding

is that this government has already agreed to the use of the relief commission as a collection agency for this government. If there is an understanding of that nature I think the government should be aware of what kind of security is being taken from the farmers.

Topic:   UNEMPLOYMENT AND FARM RELIEF
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CON

Richard Bedford Bennett (Prime Minister; President of the Privy Council; Secretary of State for External Affairs)

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. BENNETT:

The relief commission is

a provincial body set up by the provincial government, and as such it is subject to provincial control. They made the arrangement with themselves. All we did was to supervise, so far as we could, the proper expenditure of the money in the manner indicated in this house. The form of security they may take, in order that they may be able to repay to the dominion the moneys advanced, is not our business.

Topic:   UNEMPLOYMENT AND FARM RELIEF
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LIB

William Richard Motherwell

Liberal

Mr. MOTHERWELL:

I do not see why

we cannot get this information now; we have asked for it several times.

Topic:   UNEMPLOYMENT AND FARM RELIEF
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CON

Richard Bedford Bennett (Prime Minister; President of the Privy Council; Secretary of State for External Affairs)

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. BENNETT:

I shall be glad to give

the hon. gentleman any information I have.

Topic:   UNEMPLOYMENT AND FARM RELIEF
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LIB

William Richard Motherwell

Liberal

Mr. MOTHERWELL:

In the application

for relief made by a farmer in Saskatchewan, the farmer faithfully promises to pay to the Saskatchewan Relief Commission, on behalf of His Majesty the King in the right of the Dominion government, on or before such and such a date, all advances made to him by way of relief or seed grain, at the value and prices stated by the commission. I take it that the

obligation is assumed by the commission to collect for the seed grain as well as for the relief on behalf of the government of Canada, and with all due respect to my right hon. friend I do feel that someone in the government should be able to give this information.

I think the Minister of Agriculture was asked the question, but he was not in a position to answer it very definitely. Before going further I think we should have this question answered I have before me a bill which recently passed the Saskatchewan legislature incorporating the Saskatchewan Relief Commission, and the way in which our farmers are being hog-tied in connection with these seed grain and feed advances is simply terrible. I do not think we should go further without complete information in this regard.

Topic:   UNEMPLOYMENT AND FARM RELIEF
Subtopic:   CONTINUANCE ACT, 1932-CONSIDERATION OF RESOLUTION
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CON

Richard Bedford Bennett (Prime Minister; President of the Privy Council; Secretary of State for External Affairs)

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. BENNETT:

I will answer the hon.

gentleman, and I hope he hears me. First, the province of Saskatchewan is making the arrangements, through its relief commission, with the individual farmers with respect to seed grain; second, the seed grain is being provided by the Dominion government; third, the province is undertaking to repay to the Dominion government the money expended in the purchase of seed grain; fourth, my understanding-and I am not advised fully-is that the legislature of Saskatchewan is taking such steps as are regarded as essential for the purpose of enabling it to secure repayment of the advances so made.

Topic:   UNEMPLOYMENT AND FARM RELIEF
Subtopic:   CONTINUANCE ACT, 1932-CONSIDERATION OF RESOLUTION
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LIB

William Richard Motherwell

Liberal

Mr. MOTHERWELL:

Then are we to

understand that this government accepts no responsibility at all for the terms imposed upon the farmers by the Saskatchewan government or the relief commission?

Topic:   UNEMPLOYMENT AND FARM RELIEF
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CON

Richard Bedford Bennett (Prime Minister; President of the Privy Council; Secretary of State for External Affairs)

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. BENNETT:

No.

Topic:   UNEMPLOYMENT AND FARM RELIEF
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LIB

William Richard Motherwell

Liberal

Mr. MOTHERWELL:

I suppose in Regina they will say the same thing, that they have no responsibility either.

Topic:   UNEMPLOYMENT AND FARM RELIEF
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CON

Richard Bedford Bennett (Prime Minister; President of the Privy Council; Secretary of State for External Affairs)

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. BENNETT:

No.

Topic:   UNEMPLOYMENT AND FARM RELIEF
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LIB

William Richard Motherwell

Liberal

Mr. MOTHERWELL:

I submit that there is an individual as well as a joint responsibility resting on both governments in regard to the terms upon which these farmers get this seed grain.

Topic:   UNEMPLOYMENT AND FARM RELIEF
Subtopic:   CONTINUANCE ACT, 1932-CONSIDERATION OF RESOLUTION
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LIB

William Lyon Mackenzie King (Leader of the Official Opposition)

Liberal

Mr. MACKENZIE KING:

There are a

number of questions we should like to ask in connection with this resolution, but I understand that when the bill is in committee ample opportunity will be given for discussion.

Topic:   UNEMPLOYMENT AND FARM RELIEF
Subtopic:   CONTINUANCE ACT, 1932-CONSIDERATION OF RESOLUTION
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CON

Richard Bedford Bennett (Prime Minister; President of the Privy Council; Secretary of State for External Affairs)

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. BENNETT:

Quite so, and I think it will expedite matters when the committee has the bill before it. The only reason I have

Questions

remained until this hour is because some safeguards have been suggested to me, but I believe it will be much clearer when the house is in committee. Then we will be able to answer any questions that may be brought forward.

Resolution as amended reported, read the second time and concurred in. Mr. Bennett thereupon moved for leave to introduce Bill No. 24, respecting unemployment and farm relief.

Motion agreed to and bill read the first time.

Topic:   UNEMPLOYMENT AND FARM RELIEF
Subtopic:   CONTINUANCE ACT, 1932-CONSIDERATION OF RESOLUTION
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ADJOURNMENT-BUSINESS OF THE HOUSE


Mr. Bennett moved the adjournment of the house.


LIB

William Lyon Mackenzie King (Leader of the Official Opposition)

Liberal

Mr. MACKENZIE KING:

What will be the business this afternoon?

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CON

Richard Bedford Bennett (Prime Minister; President of the Privy Council; Secretary of State for External Affairs)

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. BENNETT:

We will continue with

this bill. If we finish it we will take the motion with regard to supply which is now pending.

Motion agreed to and the house adjourned at 4.20 a.m. (Wednesday).

Wednesday, March 30, 1932

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March 29, 1932