February 23, 1932

APPOINTMENT OF SELECT STANDING COMMITTEE TO CONSIDER ACCOUNTS AND ESTIMATES

CON

Robert James Manion (Minister of Railways and Canals)

Conservative (1867-1942)

Hon. R. J. MANION (Minister of Railways and Canals):

Mr. Speaker, I intend to move the motion which stood in my name yesterday with reference to the select standing committee on railways and shipping, substituting the name of Mr. Munn for that of Mr. Hanbury. This suggestion has come from the other side, and I therefore move as follows:

That standing order 63 of the House of Commons relating to the appointment of the select standing committees of the house, be amended by adding to the select standing committees of the house for the present session a select standing committee on railways and shipping owned, operated and controlled by the government, to which will be referred the accounts and the estimates of the Canadian National Railways and the Canadian Government Merchant Marine for the present session, for consideration and report to the house.

Provided however, that nothing in this resolution shall be construed to curtail in any way the full right of discussion in committee of supply and that the said committee consist of Messrs. Beaubien, Bell (St. Antoine), Bothwell, Cantley, Chaplin, Duff, Euler. Fiset (Sir Eugfme), Fraser (Cariboo), Geary, Gobeil, Gray, Munn,

Hanson (York-Sunbury), Heaps, Kennedy (Peace River), McGibbon, MacMillan (Saskatoon), Manion, Power, Rogers and Stewart (Lethbridge) .

Motion as amended agreed to.

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THE PUBLIC SERVICE

PROPOSED DEDUCTION OF TEN PER CENT IN INDEMNITIES AND SALARIES

CON

Richard Bedford Bennett (Prime Minister; President of the Privy Council; Secretary of State for External Affairs)

Conservative (1867-1942)

Right Hon. R. B. BENNETT (Prime Minister) :

Mr. Speaker, I regret to have to state that owing to the indisposition of the Minister of Finance (Mr. Rhodes), he will be unable to move the motion standing in his name and I should like to have it stand.

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LIB

William Lyon Mackenzie King (Leader of the Official Opposition)

Liberal

Right Hon. W. L. MACKENZIE KING (Leader of the Opposition):

Mr. Speaker, I would inquire of my right hon. friend if I am correct in understanding that before this resolution can be proceeded with in committee of the whole at least one day's notice will have to be given to the effect that on such and such a day the motion will be considered and that the resolution has received the approval of His Excellency.

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CON

Richard Bedford Bennett (Prime Minister; President of the Privy Council; Secretary of State for External Affairs)

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. BENNETT:

I understood that the

resolution had been brought forward by the Minister of Finance in terms to conform with the rules of the house. ^ was not present when the resolution was placed on the order paper.

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LIB

William Lyon Mackenzie King (Leader of the Official Opposition)

Liberal

Mr. MACKENZIE KING:

As to that His Honour can advise the house. My understanding is that the resolution is in the correct form, but before it can be proceeded with at least one day's notice must be given.

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CON

Pierre Édouard Blondin (Speaker of the Senate)

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. SPEAKER:

The motion will be that the house at its next sitting resolve itself into committee of the whole to consider this resolution.

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CON

Richard Bedford Bennett (Prime Minister; President of the Privy Council; Secretary of State for External Affairs)

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. BENNETT (for the Minister of Finance) moved:

that the house go into committee at the next sitting to consider the following resolution:

That it is expedient to introduce a measure to authorize deductions of ten per cent from the amounts of certain salaries or other compensations or indemnities payable by the government of Canada during the fiscal year 1932-33.

And to provide for payment out of the consolidated revenue fund of all current contributions payable under the provisions of the Civil Service Superannuation Act in respect of the salaries payable during the fiscal year ending March 31, 1933, of all employees who receive not more than one thousand two hundred dollars per annum.

He said: His Excellency the Governor General, having been made acquainted with the

Recording oj Pairs

subject matter of this resolution, recommends it to the favourable consideration of the house.

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Motion agreed to.


SURVEY OF NATIONAL PORTS


On the orders of the day:


LIB

Ian Alistair Mackenzie

Liberal

Hon. IAN MACKENZIE (Vancouver Centre):

Mr. Speaker, will the Minister of Marine (Mr. Duranleau) advise if he has received the report of Sir Alexander Gibb in regard to the harbours of Canada.

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CON

Alfred Duranleau (Minister of Fisheries; Minister of Marine)

Conservative (1867-1942)

Hon. ALFRED DURANLEAU (Minister of Marine):

Not yet.

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RECORDING OF PAIRS


On the orders of the day:


LAB

James Shaver Woodsworth

Labour

Mr. J. S. WOODSWORTH (Winnipeg North Centre):

Mr. Speaker, if the Prime

Minister (Mr. Bennett) will permit me to speak, I would direct the attention of the house to a statement made last evening just before adjournment by the Prime Minister (Mr. Bennett) as follows:

May I add that in view of the pairing which took place this afternoon an adjustment was made of the pair of the right hon. leader of the opposition, so that the opposition wras not deprived of that \j>te.

It has always been the practice of the house that any vote once it is cast cannot be changed nor can any record of the house be altered. Hon. members will recall that several years ago the then member for Nelson, Mr. Bird, inadvertently voted the wrong way; he forgot his pair and there was the utmost condemnation of his action. Mr. Bird rose in his place and attempted to rectify the mistake but it was then ruled that it would be impossible for him to change his vote once it was cast. I should like to ask the Prime Minister how he was able to rectify the mistake which he claims was made yesterday afternoon.

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CON

Richard Bedford Bennett (Prime Minister; President of the Privy Council; Secretary of State for External Affairs)

Conservative (1867-1942)

Right Hon. R. B. BENNETT (Prime Minister) :

Mr. Speaker, I did not say that a

mistake had been made yesterday afternoon. I noticed that the language in which the arrangement for pdirs was made did not cover a private member's motion, but in view of the fact that I observed after the voting that pairs were being announced, I at once made the statement to the house. I spoke to the chief whip on this side, but not to ask that my vote should be changed, it having been recorded, nor was any effort made to change it. If the hon. gentleman will take the trouble to look at Hansard he will find that my vote

is there; no change was made. He is deliberately, or otherwise, making a statement, presumably-

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Some hon. MEMBERS:

Order.

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February 23, 1932