February 11, 1932

LIB

Charles A. Stewart

Liberal

Mr. STEWART (Edmonton):

I notice

that subsection 3 of this section provides for penalties. Why the necessity for penalties? Have abuses grown up under the provisions of the act governing boards of trade whereby unauthorized bodies are using the name?

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CON

Charles Hazlitt Cahan (Secretary of State of Canada)

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. CAHAN:

I understand that in the city of Toronto the name "board of trade" has been used for the carrying on of transactions in foreign countries. For their own personal advantage, individuals have been implying that they are the board of trade of a district when in fact they have no authority so to do.

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LIB

Charles Gavan Power

Liberal

Mr. POWER:

The bill reads:

No person shall within any district in which there is a duly constituted board, use the words "Board of Trade," or "Chamber of Commerce."

In the city of Montreal there is a board of trade as well as a chamber of commerce, and I assume that under this bill the body which was first constituted would be the one entitled to use the term "Board of Trade", while the other body would be liable to a fine of $500.

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CON

Charles Hazlitt Cahan (Secretary of State of Canada)

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. CAHAN:

I do not think the hon.

gentleman is correct. The chamber of commerce is constituted under a special act while the board of trade comes under this act. I do not think subsection 2 is properly drafted, and I shall ask the hon. Minister of Finance (Mr. Rhodes) to move an amendment to make the subsection read "under a general or special act of the parliament of Canada."

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LIB

Charles Gavan Power

Liberal

Mr. POWER:

The point I am trying to

make is that there are two boards in Montreal, one the chamber of commerce and the other the board of trade. One of them would be the junior body and under this bill would be precluded from using that name.

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CON

Charles Hazlitt Cahan (Secretary of State of Canada)

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. CAHAN:

I think not. The subsection reads:

-unless they are incorporated as a body corporate and politic under this act or under a special act of the parliament of Canada.

I intended to insert "under a general or special aot of the parliament of Canada." I am advised that the chamber of commerce and the board of trade in Montreal both are constituted under dominion acts.

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LIB

Charles Gavan Power

Liberal

Mr. POWER:

I was under the impression that the chamber of commerce was incorporated under a provincial act.

Boards of Trade Act

Mr. CAHANI am advised also that the chamber of commerce is one of the bodies which approve of this proposed legislation.

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LIB

Charles Gavan Power

Liberal

Mr. POWER:

They might approve of it without knowing what it was all about. I do not object on their behalf; I was objecting to the way the bill is drafted.

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CON

Charles Hazlitt Cahan (Secretary of State of Canada)

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. CAHAN:

If the hon. gentleman thinks there is any doubt I will move that the committee rise and report progress.

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LIB
CON

John Thomas Hackett

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. HACKETT:

Will the minister advise

the committee as to how boards of trade in small villages will be affected? Most of these organizations are unincorporated.

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CON

Charles Hazlitt Cahan (Secretary of State of Canada)

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. CAHAN:

If an organization in any

village desires to assume the functions of a board of trade it should be incorporated under the Boards of Trade Act.

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LIB

Charles Gavan Power

Liberal

Mr. POWER:

As I understand it, if there

was such an organization as the Eastern Townships Board of Trade, the town of Stanstead could not incorporate its board of trade without first consulting the other body and then obtaining a certificate from the governor in council.

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CON

Charles Hazlitt Cahan (Secretary of State of Canada)

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. CAHAN:

The Boards of Trade Act

is administered by the Secretary of State, and if a second board of trade in a particular district desired to be incorporated and applied for incorporation, the officials of the department would notify the existing board which would be afforded an opportunity to show cause against recording the proposed cer-i tificate. After having shown cause, the certificate instead of being recorded at the option of the Secretary of State, as under the existing law, would be recorded only with the sanction and authority of the governor in council. Those are the provisions of section 6 of the act which are incorporated into section 2 of this bill. The bill provides that the words "board of trade" or "chamber of commerce" shall not be used by another body which has not had such a certificate recorded. Chambers of commerce (throughout the country object to other chambers being organized in their respective districts.

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LIB

Charles A. Stewart

Liberal

Mr. STEWART (Edmonton):

Is it not a fact that boards of trade in the small villages now will have to be incorporated under the act?

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CON

Charles Hazlitt Cahan (Secretary of State of Canada)

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. CAHAN:

It has always been so.

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LIB
CON

Charles Hazlitt Cahan (Secretary of State of Canada)

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. CAHAN:

That is true. At the present time any group of thirty individuals can form themselves into a board of trade.

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LIB
CON

Charles Hazlitt Cahan (Secretary of State of Canada)

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. CAHAN:

Subsection (2) of section 1

says:

No person shall within any district in which there is a duly constituted board, use the words "board of trade," or "chamber of commerce," as part of the name under which they are incorporated or doing business, or any other words so similar as to be liable to be confused therewith, unless they are incorporated as a body corporate and politic under this act or under a special act of the parliament of Canada.

That means that hereafter they cannot simply mil themselves the board of trade. They must be incorporated under the Boards of Trade Act.

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February 11, 1932