July 10, 1931

CON
LIB

Peter Heenan

Liberal

Mr. HEENAN:

No. You don't need to ask anything because I am not going to answer it.

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CON

James Dew Chaplin

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. CHAPLIN:

Will you tell us who

brought that bunch up into the northwest that do not wear any clothes?

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CON

Finlay MacDonald

Conservative (1867-1942)

The CHAIRMAN (Mr. MacDonald, South Cape Breton):

Will hon. gentlemen kindly address the chair and stop this cross-fire back and forth?

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LIB

Peter Heenan

Liberal

Mr. HEENAN:

It would seem that hon.

members opposite do not like the medicine they are getting, to hear that they are responsible for bringing immigrants into this country. They have misled thousands of people and brought them to Canada to suffer misery and starvation. They do not like to be reminded of the fact that they are responsible for lowering the wages of the working men in Canada.

I shall read what the present Prime Minister said as reported in Hansard of February 11, 1929:

We have here one of the largest undeveloped areas in the world; we have a very pressing necessity for more people. There need be no misapprehension about that, notwithstanding what has been said from time to time to the contrary. It will be found that the increase of population in this country, brought about through bringing additional people in, will not only lessen unemployment for those who are now in it, but will increase all employment. Those who have studied the problems connected with the movement of people realize that instead of there being a diminution of opportunities for labour the flow of new peoples into a country means the increasing of the opportunities for those who are there as well as providing work to those who may come.

I have before me a similar statement reported in the Calgary Herald of February 1, 1929. In 1930 Mayor Webb of Winnipeg led a delegation of unemployed to this city. He and his delegation said that the reason for unemployment throughout Canada was the number of immigrants which had been brought in. Then he went back to Winnipeg and was invited to speak before the Sons of England society. His speech is reported in the Free Press of April 24, 1930. I would ask hon. members to bear in mind that this is the same gentleman who after blaming the government for bringing in too many immigrants left Ottawa, returned to Winnipeg and addressed the meeting to which I have referred, as follows:

Mayor Webb told of a fine young Englishman who was in Winnipeg looking for work. He had been sent out to this country as a result of efforts made in his home city to help young fellows anxious to try their fortunes abroad.

"That is the type of man we want in this country" explained the mayor, who expressed the hope that thousands more like him would be sent to Canada and given a fair chance to succeed when they got here.

"The best thing for this country would be the arrival of a million Britishers," declared mayor Webb.

I want to point out, without mentioning further editorials of a like character-I do not wish to burden the committee because I know that it must be very trying to hon. members opposite to listen to this repetition -that this is the kind of propaganda that the King government and this country had to submit to for the last two or three years.

I know that there were thousands of miners and other people in the British Isles who were thinking of the great opportunities which prevailed in Canada and who with the assistance of immigration societies borrowed money

Supply-Immigration

to come here. When they arrived they found conditions just as I pictured them in a public speech delivered before the Trades and Labour Congress of Canada.

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CON

Wesley Ashton Gordon (Minister of Immigration and Colonization; Minister of Mines)

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. GORDON:

When were those miners brought to Canada to which my hon. friend refers?

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LIB

Peter Heenan

Liberal

Mr. HEENAN:

Those miners were coming over here expecting to find work when they arrived.

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CON

Wesley Ashton Gordon (Minister of Immigration and Colonization; Minister of Mines)

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. GORDON:

In what years did they come?

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LIB
CON

Wesley Ashton Gordon (Minister of Immigration and Colonization; Minister of Mines)

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. GORDON:

They are not coming now.

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CON

James Dew Chaplin

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. CHAPLIN:

They came when the hon. member was in office.

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LIB

Peter Heenan

Liberal

Mr. HEENAN:

They are coming because of the propaganda of my hon. friend and his friends.

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CON

James Dew Chaplin

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. CHAPLIN:

Who brought those naked Doukhobors into the northwest? You and your government.

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CON
LIB
CON

James Dew Chaplin

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. CHAPLIN:

May be it is, but they are still running naked.

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LIB
CON
LIB

Peter Heenan

Liberal

Mr. HEENAN:

I believe my hon. friend from Lincoln (Mr. Chaplin) and his friends are rather excited.

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July 10, 1931