June 15, 1931

LIB

Joseph Raoul Hurtubise

Liberal

Mr. HURTUBISE:

For a copy of the paysheets showing the time and names of persons in connection with work done and repairs made to the wharf at Strafford Centre, from the first of August, 1930, to the first of December, 1930.

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STE. GERTRUDE POST OFFICE

LIB

Lucien Dubois

Liberal

Mr. DUBOIS:

For a copy of all reports, instructions, correspondence, memoranda and letters, including a

copy of evidence, in the possession of the Post Office Department or any officer of the government, relating to the dismissal of Mr. Henri Mailhot, postmaster at Ste. Gertrude, in the county of Nicolet, Quebec, together with a return showing the expenses of, and the amount paid to each person present at the inquiry, including the inquiry commissioner.

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MOTIONS FOR PAPERS

LIB

Jean-François Pouliot

Liberal

Mr. POULIOT:

For a copy of the letter of Mr. C. E. Dube, of Riviere du Loup, to Mr. W. U. Appleton, general manager of the Canadian National Railways, Atlantic region, under date of September 12, 1930, regarding the construction of a new station at Riviere du Loup, on a piece of land, the property of His Majesty, extracts of which were published by the said Mr. C. E. Dube, in Le St. Laurent of November 27, 1930, together with a copy of Mr. A'ppleton's reply to said letter.

For a copy of letters written to Mr. C. E. Dube, of Riviere du Loup, to Mr. W. U. Appleton, general manager, Canadian National Railways, Atlantic region, on August 23 and 30, 1930, in connection with tenders called for the construction of a new station at Riviere du Loup, on a piece of land, the property of His Majesty, which letters were published m part by the said Mr. C. E. Dube in Le St. Laurent of November 20, 1930.

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Subtopic:   MOTIONS FOR PAPERS
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CON

Richard Bedford Bennett (Prime Minister; Minister of Finance and Receiver General; President of the Privy Council; Secretary of State for External Affairs)

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. BENNETT:

Motions 51 and 52, I submit, should not 'be passed by the house, for the reasons which I submitted the other day. They contemplate the production by the railway company of correspondence which it has had with a citizen of the country who is not a member of this house. It is alleged, as a matter of fact, that part of a letter was published in a newspaper. That cannot in any sense affect the principle involved, the application of which, I submit, precludes this house from passing these motions which stand in the name of the hon. member for Temiscouata (Mr. Pouliot).. It is quite wrong to expect the government to ask the railway companies to provide copies of letters that may be written to them by citizens of the country with respect to the construction of stations or other works. If that were done, we should be engaged most of the time in the production of such correspondence, inasmuch as the communities affected are writing letters continuously to the railway officials with respect to matters of this kind, And the fact that someone who writes a letter happens to have been an opponent of an hon. member of this house cannot assist the hon. gentleman's case. Nor can the fact that that same citizen used a portion of his letter in a communication addressed to a newspaper advance the matter further. I therefore say to my hon. friend that reluctantly we are compelled to deny him this source of information, though I have no

Redemption Loan

doubt that, with his resourcefulness, he will be able to obtain it in some other way.

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Subtopic:   MOTIONS FOR PAPERS
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LIB

Jean-François Pouliot

Liberal

Mr. POULIOT:

The right hon. gentleman has been generous to-day in having many returns tabled and I will not press the resolutions. I drop them.

Motions dropped.

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REDEMPTION LOAN, $750,000,000

CON

Richard Bedford Bennett (Prime Minister; Minister of Finance and Receiver General; President of the Privy Council; Secretary of State for External Affairs)

Conservative (1867-1942)

Right Hon. R. B. BENNETT (Minister of Finance):

Mr. Speaker, I give notice that at the next sitting I shall move that the house resolve itself into committee of the whole to consider this resolution standing in my name:

Resolved, that the governor in council be authorized to raise by way of loan under the provisions of the Consolidated Revenue and Audit Act, an amount not to exceed in the whole the sum of seven hundred and fifty million dollars, for paying or redeeming the whole or any portion of loans or obligations of Canada, and for purchasing and withdrawing from circulation matured securities of Canada.

His Excellency the Governor General having been made acquainted with the subject of this resolution, recommends it to the favourable consideration of the house.

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Motion agreed to.


CON

Richard Bedford Bennett (Prime Minister; Minister of Finance and Receiver General; President of the Privy Council; Secretary of State for External Affairs)

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. BENNETT:

Merely as a matter of

inquiry, Mr. Speaker, is it essential that the motion be put to the house at this stage?

I have now given notice that to-morrow 1 shall make the motion. On more than one occasion I saw the practice followed which Your Honour also has just followed. It does not seem to me to be logical. This is a government notice of motion: I stand in

my place and state that it has received the approval of His Excellency, and that at the next sitting the motion will be made that the house resolve itself into committee. There is no motion to be put now. *

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CON

Pierre Édouard Blondin (Speaker of the Senate)

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. SPEAKER:

The practice has been

for the house, at its next sitting, to go into committee of the whole for the purpose of considering the resolution. By the adoption of the motion now, the committee is so formed and is seized of the item of business.

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CON

Richard Bedford Bennett (Prime Minister; Minister of Finance and Receiver General; President of the Privy Council; Secretary of State for External Affairs)

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. BENNETT:

It cannot possibly be

formed until to-morrow, notwithstanding what the clerk says.

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CON

Pierre Édouard Blondin (Speaker of the Senate)

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. SPEAKER:

In regard to the question raised by the Prime Minister (Mr. Bennett) as to the necessity of following the procedure with regard to government notices of motion, I direct the attention of the house to standing order 60 which reads as follows:

If any motion be made in the house for any public aid or charge upon the people, the con-

sideration and debate thereof may not be presently entered upon, but shall be adjourned till such further day as the house thinks fit to appoint; and then it shall be referred to a committee of the whole house, before any resolution or vote of the house do pass thereupon.

That standing order is in keeping word for word with the British standing order No. 71, passed on March 20, 1866.

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CON

Richard Bedford Bennett (Prime Minister; Minister of Finance and Receiver General; President of the Privy Council; Secretary of State for External Affairs)

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. BENNETT:

Mr. Speaker, it was for

that very reason that I directed the attention of the house to the fact that there is nothing in that standing order to show that any motion has to be made. A notice of motion has to be given and before the motion can be considered notice must be given that the committee will be set up. I gave notice the other day that I would make a formal motion to-morrow, and it is under that rule I took the exception which I did. The action which I took is covered by that rule.

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CON

Pierre Édouard Blondin (Speaker of the Senate)

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. SPEAKER:

The Speaker is in the

hands of the house and acting as he has today he has been following precedent. It may not be a correct interpretation of the rule.

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CON

Richard Bedford Bennett (Prime Minister; Minister of Finance and Receiver General; President of the Privy Council; Secretary of State for External Affairs)

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. BENNETT:

Your Honour will observe that the rule says that the house cannot at once consider the matter. Under the heading of government notices of motion I gave notice that I would to-morrow or at the next sitting of the house move that the house resolve itself into a committee to consider the motion standing under my name. Now, what could anyone second; it is not a question of seconding that motion, there can only be a seconder to a motion and there is no motion. The motion will come to-morrow or at the next sitting when I move that the Speaker do now leave the chair for the house to resolve itself into a committee of the whole to consider the resolution.

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CON

Pierre Édouard Blondin (Speaker of the Senate)

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. SPEAKER:

Then, under that interpretation of this rule, when the motion is made to-morrow or at whatever sitting of the house it may be made, it cannot be dealt with but will have to be adjourned. I repeat the rule as follows:

If any motion be made in the house for any public aid or charge upon the people, the consideration and debate thereof may not be presently entered upon, but shall be adjourned till such further day as the house thinks fit to appoint; and then it shall be referred to a committee of the whole house, before any resolution or vote of the house do pass thereupon.

If the motion to refer the matter to committee of the whole is not put and carried, then, when it comes on for consideration tomorrow, it cannot be dealt with, but will have to be adjourned again.

Royal Canadian Mint

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CON

Richard Bedford Bennett (Prime Minister; Minister of Finance and Receiver General; President of the Privy Council; Secretary of State for External Affairs)

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. BENNETT:

Except in committee.

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CON

Pierre Édouard Blondin (Speaker of the Senate)

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. SPEAKER:

It could not be presently entered upon, it would have to be adjourned without being debated.

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June 15, 1931