April 29, 1931

RULES OF THE HOUSE

PROPOSED AMENDMENT DECLARING RIGHT OF MEMBERS TO REFRAIN FROM VOTING


The house resumed from Tuesday, April 28, consideration of the proposed motion of Mr. Bourassa, the amendment thereto of Mr. Bennett and the amendment to the amendment of Mr. Euler.


CON

Charles Hazlitt Cahan (Secretary of State of Canada)

Conservative (1867-1942)

Hon. C. H. CAHAN (Secretary of State):

Mr. Speaker, with respect to the motion now pending with regard to hon. members voting or not voting on motions before the house, as this matter is subject to a conference now being initiated with a view to arriving at some compromise, I ask the unanimous consent of the house that the motion stand until after such conference is held.

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UFA

Edward Joseph Garland

United Farmers of Alberta

Mr. E. J. GARLAND (Bow River):

Mr. Speaker, before the consent of the house is given, may I ask the hon. minister who has just taken his seat (Mr. Cahan) the nature of the conference, and who will be members thereof?

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CON

Charles Hazlitt Cahan (Secretary of State of Canada)

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. CAHAN:

The conference was suggested near the close of the debate on the motion of the hon. member for Labelle (Mr. Bourassa)

and the amendments which were moved thereto. I understand that the conference is to take place between the right hon. the Prime Minister (Mr. Bennett), the right hon, the Leader of the Opposition (Mr. Mackenzie King) and the Clerk of the House, and is being held with a view to drafting a compromise amendment to be submitted to the house.

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UFA

Edward Joseph Garland

United Farmers of Alberta

Mr. GARLAND (Bow River) :

I do not think a conference of that nature would fill the bill at all; I am afraid it would be wholly unfair to the hon. members in this corner of the house. This debate originated as a result of certain action which we took and which was completely in accordance with the rules of the house, although utterly misunderstood by both the leader of the government and the leader of the opposition. A motion having been introduced to remedy the rules to cover a mistake made by these hon. gentlemen and to prevent its recurrence, the hon. members responsible for the initiation of the debate are apparently to be left out of the conference.

I am sure that after due reflection the hon. minister will see the fairness and justice of taking into consideration the requirements of this group and that at least one of our members should be a representative at that conference.

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CON

Charles Hazlitt Cahan (Secretary of State of Canada)

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. CAHAN:

I think it would meet with the approval of the house to include the hon. member for Acadia (Mr. Gardiner), the leader of the third party.

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CON

Richard Bedford Bennett (Prime Minister; Minister of Finance and Receiver General; President of the Privy Council; Secretary of State for External Affairs)

Conservative (1867-1942)

Right Hon. R. B. BENNETT (Prime Minister):

And also the mover of the motion (Mr. Bourassa).

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CON

Charles Hazlitt Cahan (Secretary of State of Canada)

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. CAHAN:

Yes, they both might be

added to that committee.

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UFA

Edward Joseph Garland

United Farmers of Alberta

Mr. GARLAND (Bow River):

The hon. member for Acadia informs me that with that understanding our group will be satisfied. I thank the Prime Minister for having included the hon. member for Labelle.

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LIB

William Lyon Mackenzie King (Leader of the Official Opposition)

Liberal

Mr. MACKENZIE KING:

Mr. Speaker, it may further serve to relieve the minds of my hon. friends in the other corner if I tell them that I knew nothing of the proposed [DOT] conference until this moment. I am pleased to know I am to be invited to participate, and I am very happy to accept.

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LIB

Samuel William Jacobs

Liberal

Mr. JACOBS:

May I suggest that the hon. member for North Waterloo (Mr. Euler) be included also in that conference? I do not know whether the word "Waterloo" signifies anything to the hon. member for Labelle, but I think we ought to have a Waterloo in it.

Questions

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CON

Charles Hazlitt Cahan (Secretary of State of Canada)

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. CAHAN:

I suggest that the conference will be complete if it includes the hon. member for Labelle, as he has very definite views with regard to the nature of the amendment which should be proposed to the house,

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CON

Pierre Édouard Blondin (Speaker of the Senate)

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. SPEAKER:

Is it the unanimous wish of the house that the motion stand?

Motion stands.

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QUESTIONS


(Questions answered orally are indicated by an asterisk).


* WATER POWERS OF NAVIGABLE WATERS

LIB

Elie-Oscar Bertrand

Liberal

Mr. BERTRAND:

Has the Dominion government come to an understanding with the provinces in connection with their respective rights as to water-powers of navigable waters between the provinces, if so, when?

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CON

Richard Bedford Bennett (Prime Minister; Minister of Finance and Receiver General; President of the Privy Council; Secretary of State for External Affairs)

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. BENNETT:

If I may answer the

question verbally, the answer is, no.

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April 29, 1931