April 22, 1931

AGREEENT PROVIDING FOR RELEASE OR RETRANSFER TO ORIGINAL OWNERS

CON

Charles Hazlitt Cahan (Secretary of State of Canada)

Conservative (1867-1942)

Hon. C. H. CAHAN (Secretary of State):

I desire to lay on the table of the house an agreement which was executed at The Hague on the 14th of January, 1930, during the regime of the late government, providing for the release and, if necessary, the re-transfer to the original owners or to the persons deriving title from them of the property, rights and interests originally belonging to them and then subject to the charge created pursuant to the treaty of Versailles, where such property, rights or interests were not already liquid or liquidated, or finally disposed of on June 7, 1929. I have been unable to find that that agreement executed at The Hague was ever produced and laid on the table of the house by the late government.

I also desire to lay upon the table a copy of the protocol to the Hague agreement between the government of the Dominion of Canada and the German Reich dated October 16, 1930, regarding the return of unliquidated, sequestrated German property to which I have just referred.

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RULES OF THE HOUSE

PROPOSED AMENDMENT RELIEVING MEMBER OF OBLIGATION TO VOTE

IND

Joseph Henri Napoléon Bourassa

Independent

Mr. HENRI BOURASSA (Labelle):

I

desire to give notice to the house that on Tuesday next I shall move that the standing orders of this house be amended by inserting the following as 9 (a):

Upon a division a member is not obliged to vote.

I have given a copy of the notice to the Clerk.

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CORRECTION

CON

Thomas Edward Simpson (Chief Government Whip)

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. T. E. SIMPSON (West Algoma):

I

notice in the Hansard of yesterday that I am reported as having mentioned the name of the hon. member for Comox-Alberni (Mr. Neill; as one of those who refrained from voting on the amendment. This was an error. The hon. gentleman voted, and I think it is only fair to him that I should make this explanation.

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PRIVILEGE-MR. GARDINER

UFA

Robert Gardiner

United Farmers of Alberta

Mr. ROBERT GARDINER (Acadia):

Last evening when the vote was being taken there was what we may term an unfortunate occurrence, and some reflection was cast upon members in this corner of the house during the proceedings. I made the statement last evening that members in this corner who sat in the house while the vote on the amendment was being taken did so because of rulings of the former Speaker, the Hon. Mr. Lemieux. I am going to take the opportunity this afternoon to place upon Hansard the rulings upon which we based our action last evening.

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CON

Pierre Édouard Blondin (Speaker of the Senate)

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. SPEAKER:

If the hon. member for Acadia wishes to make an explanation of his vote or with regard to something that was imputed to him, that would properly be a question of privilege, but to quote at this stage precedents as to the correctness or incorrectness of the Speaker's ruling is going beyond a question of privilege.

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UFA

Robert Gardiner

United Farmers of Alberta

Mr. GARDINER:

I am not questioning your ruling, Mr. Speaker, I accept it, and very heartily. I am simply giving the reasons for my conduct last evening, and for that purpose I desire to place on record the rulings of the former Speaker.

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CON

Richard Bedford Bennett (Prime Minister; Minister of Finance and Receiver General; President of the Privy Council; Secretary of State for External Affairs)

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. BENNETT:

I am sorry, Mr. Speaker, but the hon. gentleman is out of order. The opportunity was afforded last evening very distinctly and very generously by Your Honour for hon. members to make any statements which they might desire to make. In view also of the notice of motion which has just been given by the hon. member for Labelle (Mr. Bourassa), it is perfectly obvious that an ample opportunity will be afforded to the hon. gentleman to make any statement he desires in that connection.

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CON

Pierre Édouard Blondin (Speaker of the Senate)

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. SPEAKER:

I understand that the hon. member for Acadia now wishes to quote authorities to explain why his conduct was as it was last evening. If I am correct in my surmise, that is not a question of privilege, and I must rule that he is out of order.

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UFA

Robert Gardiner

United Farmers of Alberta

Mr. GARDINER:

Then may I call the attention of Your Honour to what I would call the scurrilous attack of a certain newspaper on certain members in this corner of the house because of the proceedings in the house last evening. Is that sufficient to be a question of privilege?

Privilege-Miss Macphuil

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CON

Pierre Édouard Blondin (Speaker of the Senate)

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. SPEAKER:

The attitude of the hon. members referred to as comprising the group in that corner of the house was thoroughly explained last evening. The hon. member for Labelle, for instance, has said that there were plenty -of precedents for what was done last night in the rulings of the former Speaker. All that the hon. member for Acadia is seeking to do now is to repeat that statement and possibly quote from the rulings or give the page numbers where they are to be found in Hansard. I submit that that is not a question of privilege.

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UFA

Robert Gardiner

United Farmers of Alberta

Mr. GARDINER:

I bow to your ruling, Mr. Speaker, but I can assure the house that at the first opportunity I shall put on Hansard the ruling of the former Speaker.

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CON

Pierre Édouard Blondin (Speaker of the Senate)

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. SPEAKER:

I shall be very glad indeed if the hon. member will avail himself of the first proper opportunity to do so.

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PRIVILEGE-MISS MACPHAIL

PRO

Agnes Campbell Macphail

Progressive

Miss AGNES MACPHAIL (Southeast Grey):

In the Ottawa Citizen of this morning there is an article by Mr. Charles Bishop, whom I think one might fairly call the czar of the press gallery.

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Some hon. MEMBERS:

Oh, oh.

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April 22, 1931