March 30, 1931

CON

Richard Bedford Bennett (Prime Minister; Minister of Finance and Receiver General; President of the Privy Council; Secretary of State for External Affairs)

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. BENNETT:

I assume hon. members

will present in writing to the minister their statements with respect to the qualifications to share in the grant in question. The only difficulty that I had about the matter was in ascertaining just why four should suddenly become entitled to a grant by telegram during the election, but that may have been due to an oversight. Presumably the matter became so pressing because it had been overlooked, as much departmental business necessarily is, and it was taken care of in that way. May I observe in all these matters no new policy has been initiated by the Minister of Agriculture. If hon. members will take the trouble to look at the supplementary estimates presented on May 11, 1922, by the then government with respect to the previous fiscal year, they will find that the late Mr. Fielding, then Minister of Finance, took complete control of the estimates. They will find on column 1662 of Hansard how he dealt with them and got them passed. I am bound to say that no such information was given then as has been given on this occasion.

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Charles A. Stewart

Liberal

Mr. STEWART (Edmonton):

Neither the Hon. Mr. Fielding nor the succeeding Minister of Finance took the responsibility of answering for every department. The ministers were in their places and ready to answer if questions were asked.

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Richard Bedford Bennett (Prime Minister; Minister of Finance and Receiver General; President of the Privy Council; Secretary of State for External Affairs)

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. BENNETT:

That may be, but all

the answers were given by the then Minister of Finance, Mr. Fielding.

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Charles A. Stewart

Liberal

Mr. STEWART (Edmonton):

I was

present in the House of Commons at the time and have been on every occasion since, and the ministers always answered the questions that were asked. The Minister of Finance of course took charge.

Mr. MeINTOSH: Might I suggest to the

Prime Minister in connection with his agricultural policy that it may be wise to launch a new policy with regard to these fairs? There are two class B fairs: 1-B and 2-B. I do not know what grants the government is going to give to class 2-B fairs, but I know what grant has been given to the class 1-B fair, and that is $1,500 a year. The class A fair has been receiving $5,000 a year. Regina gets $5,000; Saskatoon gets $5,000, and other fairs are getting $5,000-fairs which in my estimation are not doing as good work for agriculture as those in many of the smaller cities like Yorkton, Prince Albert, North Battleford and so forth. I would suggest to the Prime Minister that when he is investigating policies with regard to agricultural fairs he endeavour to remove that grievance. The class 1-B fair ought perhaps to be put into the same category as class A, and given the same grant, namely, $5,000 a year.

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James J. Donnelly

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. DONNELLY:

Every year during the past several years we members from the west, when the grants to class B fairs came up for discussion, have urged that something should

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be done about them. These grants to class B fairs were started several years ago under the Union government to promote agriculture, more especially in the outlying districts. A closed list was formed, and if you happened to have a fair of a certain size, you got the grant; and if your fair was not up to that size, you did not get the grant. We contended year after year in this house that there should be some policy laid down with respect to these class B fairs, and urged that any fair coming up to a certain standard should get the grant. I make that same recommendation to the Minister of Agriculture (Mr. Weir) now, that he decide upon a standard for the class B fairs, and that any fair coming up to that standard get the grant; if the fairs now getting the grant do not come up to that standard, withhold the grant. Assiniiboia gets a grant for a class B fair. When these grants were first inaugurated, that was a new country, hardly settled, but it has now a bigger fair than many other towns of larger size. We always contended that we were absolutely entitled to the grant and that we should not be discriminated against just because ours was a young fair, and finally we got the grant. I would again urge the minister to establish a standard for these fairs and that every fair coming up to that standard should get the grant.

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Item agreed to. Health of animals-administration of the Animal Contagious Diseases Act and Meat and ®onnnnnli Fooils -Act-further amount required, «poUU,uuO.


CON

Richard Bedford Bennett (Prime Minister; Minister of Finance and Receiver General; President of the Privy Council; Secretary of State for External Affairs)

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. BENNETT:

It will perhaps be within the memory of members of the committee that m 1929 it became essential To vote $500,000 in the supplementary estimates for this very purpose. This year the necessity arises out of an increase in the sums payable in the infected areas in eastern Ontario, in the counties of Stormont, Dundas and Russell; in Quebec, in the counties of Stanstead, Sherbrooke, Chicoutimi, and Lake St. John; and in New Brunswick, where the compensation exceeded the anticipation by about $25,000, making in all the sum of $300,000. This is an item which, with the best intentions in the world, it would probably be impossible for any government to gauge very accurately.

It turned out that a larger number of cattle were attacked than was contemplated.

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William Richard Motherwell

Liberal

Mr. MOTHERWELL:

I have to congratulate the minister upon continuing this good work. I think that the over-expenditure, however, is largely due to new areas being opened up during the period of this government's

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administration. I noticed by the Gazette during the winter that a new area was opened in Manitoba, another in Quebec near Sherbrooke, and another in New Brunswick. It is all good work, but I believe it will be found that the over-expenditure was due to opening up these new areas. The rumours were that this work was going to be discontinued, but here is evidence that it is to be continued, and I want to compliment the minister upon that. It is of tremendous value not only in that it checks the spread of bovine tuberculosis, but because of direct effect in checking the spread of this terrible disease among humans as well.

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Richard Bedford Bennett (Prime Minister; Minister of Finance and Receiver General; President of the Privy Council; Secretary of State for External Affairs)

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. BENNETT:

The hon. gentleman is correct. In New Brunswick the compensation was about $25,000 more than estimated, and the expenditure in eastern Ontario was $125,000 more than normal.

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Charles-Philippe Beaubien

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. BEAUBIEN:

There were some new areas established in Manitoba, one adjoining my riding. I have received several letters asking me to ascertain if this good work is to be continued. When I go home at Easter may I assure my people that it is to be continued?

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CON

Richard Bedford Bennett (Prime Minister; Minister of Finance and Receiver General; President of the Privy Council; Secretary of State for External Affairs)

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. BENNETT:

Certainly.

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Ross Wilfred Gray

Liberal

Mr. GRAY:

Is the Prime Minister aware that the Department of Agriculture, through the health of animals branch, has sent out a letter through the office of the chief inspector advising that a recommendation has been made by the minister's office that officials when on departmental business in Halifax should stay at the Lord Nelson hotel, and directing them to govern themselves accordingly? I mention this because, as I think this house will realize, there is in the city of Halifax a government-owned hotel, and while I do not urge that there should be discrimination, at least we should not point out to these officials that they should use a privately-owned hotel operating in competition with a government-owned hotel.

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Richard Bedford Bennett (Prime Minister; Minister of Finance and Receiver General; President of the Privy Council; Secretary of State for External Affairs)

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. BENNETT:

AVill the hon. gentleman be good enough to produce the letter?

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CON

Richard Bedford Bennett (Prime Minister; Minister of Finance and Receiver General; President of the Privy Council; Secretary of State for External Affairs)

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. BENNETT:

He has no knowledge of it nor has the minister in charge. We want the letter that we may deal with the official accordingly.

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Ross Wilfred Gray

Liberal

Mr. GRAY:

I have in my possession a copy of a letter signed by A. E. Moore, chief

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travelling inspector. It is dated December 16, 1930, is sent out to inspectors in the health of animals branch, and reads as follows:

To Inspectors:

Sir,-I beg to advise you that recommendation has been given by the minister's office to the effect that officials of this department when visiting Halifax should stop at the Lord Nelson hotel. Kindly govern yourself accordingly when on official visit at that point.

I have the honour to be, sir,

Chief Travelling Inspector.

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CON

Richard Bedford Bennett (Prime Minister; Minister of Finance and Receiver General; President of the Privy Council; Secretary of State for External Affairs)

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. BENNETT:

What is the name on it?

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CON

Richard Bedford Bennett (Prime Minister; Minister of Finance and Receiver General; President of the Privy Council; Secretary of State for External Affairs)

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. BENNETT:

Has the hon. gentleman seen the original letter?

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March 30, 1931