May 29, 1930

LIB

John Campbell Elliott (Minister of Public Works)

Liberal

Mr. ELLIOTT:

Oh, yes.

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CON

Richard Burpee Hanson

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. HANSON:

My question was not

answered as to who owned the shares in the corporation.

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LIB

John Campbell Elliott (Minister of Public Works)

Liberal

Mr. ELLIOTT:

There are no shares; this is under the authority of a commission appointed by the province of Quebec. The bridge is to be constructed, guarantees are to be made by the province, and the Dominion is to contribute towards deficits. The Dominion is to pay one-third and the province two-thirds of any deficits which might accrue each year.

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CON

Robert James Manion

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. MANION:

What becomes of the

profits, if there are any?

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LIB

John Campbell Elliott (Minister of Public Works)

Liberal

Mr. ELLIOTT:

They are used to reduce

the load, to pay off the sinking fund, and for maintenance. The tolls are used for the purpose of defraying the costs of maintenance and operation, and the interest on any loan which may be advanced for the purpose of construction and sinking fund.

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CON

Robert James Manion

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. MANION:

Supposing there is a profit after paying off the original loan, what will become of it?

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LIB

John Campbell Elliott (Minister of Public Works)

Liberal

Mr. ELLIOTT:

The tolls would be reduced. The province of Quebec retains control over

Caughmwaga Bridge

the tolls which are to be charged, and the policy is to reduce those tolls accordingly. The idea is to make it a self-sustaining proposition so far as possible.

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UFA

William Irvine

United Farmers of Alberta

Mr. IRVINE:

Will the bridge ultimately be free?

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LIB
UFA

Edward Joseph Garland

United Farmers of Alberta

Mr. GARLAND (Bow River):

Is the corporation in this case the province of Quebec?

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LIB

John Campbell Elliott (Minister of Public Works)

Liberal

Mr. ELLIOTT:

Appointees of the province of Quebec.

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UFA

Edward Joseph Garland

United Farmers of Alberta

Mr. GARLAND (Bow River):

Is it publicly owned?

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LIB
LIB

Rodolphe Lemieux (Speaker of the House of Commons)

Liberal

Mr. SPEAKER:

I think I must call the house to order; the disoussion is irregular. We are discussing the principle of the bridge construction, and only one speech may properly be delivered by each member. There may be no cross-questioning, because we have not reached the committee stage.

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LAB

Abraham Albert Heaps

Labour

Mr. HEAPS:

Is the federal government represented on this board?

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LIB

John Campbell Elliott (Minister of Public Works)

Liberal

Mr. ELLIOTT:

No, there is no provision in the a-ct to that effect.

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LAB

Herbert Bealey Adshead

Labour

Mr. H. B. ADSHEAD (Calgary East):

It is very important at this stage to consider the principle of the bill. In this instance we have the province of Quebec entering into an agreement with another corporation to build a bridge.

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?

Some hon. MEMBERS:

No, no.

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LIB

John Campbell Elliott (Minister of Public Works)

Liberal

Mr. ELLIOTT:

No, it is really forming a corporation.

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LAB

Herbert Bealey Adshead

Labour

Mr. ADSHEAD:

But it is entirely the business of the province of Quebec. We as the Dominion parliament have no right to enter into an agreement which affects the province of Quebec and this other corporation. As the Minister of the Interior (Mr. Stewart) has told us, because the enterprise touches an Indian reserve we have certain obligations. It may be proper for us to determine what our obligation is in that connection to the province of Quebec. By this bill we are obligating the Dominion parliament to pay $1,700,000 spread over a forty-year period, or about $42,500 each year.

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May 29, 1930