May 29, 1930

LIB

William Richard Motherwell (Minister of Agriculture)

Liberal

Mr. MOTHERWELL:

So far as possible the present fruit inspectional staff will take care of this work. It may require one or two more inspectors; I do not know. It will come under the fruit commissioner, whose inspectional staff already looks after two or three different classes of commodities. We are now adding maple sugar to them.

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CON

Thomas Erlin Kaiser

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. KAISER:

This is essentially a question of the adulteration of food, and how does it happen to fall to the Minister of Agriculture to administer an act that should be administered by the Department of National Health?

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LIB

William Richard Motherwell (Minister of Agriculture)

Liberal

Mr. MOTHERWELL:

When we get cases of adulteration of food, we submit them to the Department of National Health for analysis.

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CON

Hugh Alexander Stewart

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. STEWART (Leeds):

Is there any

recognized organization of producers of this product in the province of Ontario?

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LIB

William Richard Motherwell (Minister of Agriculture)

Liberal

Mr. MOTHERWELL:

Not that I know

of in Ontario.

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CON

Hugh Alexander Stewart

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. STEWART (Leeds):

Then the minister has no official representations from the producer in Ontario with respect to the subject matter of this bill. Is there an oganization of that nature in Quebec?

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An hon. MEMBER:

Yes, sir.

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CON

Hugh Alexander Stewart

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. STEWART (Leeds):

And have they

made representations asking for legislation of this kind?

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An hon. MEMBER:

Yes.

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CON

Hugh Alexander Stewart

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. STEWART (Leeds):

It seems to me

that the troubles in the past have come, not from the producer but from those who purchase the product and then manipulate, adulterate and misrepresent it to the public. This legislation, I think, bears too severely on the producers.

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LIB

William Richard Motherwell (Minister of Agriculture)

Liberal

Mr. MOTHERWELL:

I think not. My

hon. friend will notice that there is not even any fee charged.

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CON

Hugh Alexander Stewart

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. STEWART (Leeds):

It is not a matter of fee; the financial end of it is all right. But the farmer with a hundred trees in his bush must apply to the minister for a licence before he can make or sell his product.

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LIB

William Richard Motherwell (Minister of Agriculture)

Liberal

Mr. MOTHERWELL:

If he exports or

sells it in interprovincial trade, but not otherwise.

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CON

Hugh Alexander Stewart

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. STEWART (Leeds):

If he sells to a

man who is going to export it, he will have to live up to these conditions. So the effect of 2419-178

this bill goes right back to the producer. He will have to comply with its provisions, otherwise his prospective purchaser will not take the product.

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Albert Joseph Brown

Mr. BROAVN:

He would not take it anyway if he did not consider it came up to the proper standard.

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CON

Hugh Alexander Stewart

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. STEWART (Leeds):

But the intending purchaser has the opportunity of inspecting the product. That gets me back to the point that the troubles in the past have not been with the producer at all but with the purchaser who manipulates and adulterates the product. Yet you are imposing on the producer handicaps and restrictions that are going to be very grievous and I think you will hear from those affected.

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LIB

William Richard Motherwell (Minister of Agriculture)

Liberal

Mr. MOTHERWELL:

We will have to

suffer, but they will not.

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CON

Hugh Alexander Stewart

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. STEWART (Leeds):

I do not think

the minister will have to suffer at all.

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LIB

William Richard Motherwell (Minister of Agriculture)

Liberal

Mr. MOTHERWELL:

If we put through

any foolish legislation we will naturally suffer.

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CON

James Dew Chaplin

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. CHAPLIN:

You have always a chance to change it as you did the New Zealand treaty.

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May 29, 1930