May 2, 1930

LIB

John Campbell Elliott (Minister of Public Works)

Liberal

Mr. ELLIOTT:

I would like to know the

name of the gentleman who was refused admission and if possible the name of the gentleman who refused him admission. I have no doubt that my hon. friend, with his appearance, would be admitted if he cared to make application.

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LIB

Frederick George Sanderson

Liberal

Mr. SANDERSON:

I might tell my hon. friend that I was through the citadel a few weeks ago.

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CON

Richard Burpee Hanson

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. HANSON:

Oh, but you are the chief

whip.

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LIB

John Campbell Elliott (Minister of Public Works)

Liberal

Mr. ELLIOTT:

Seriously, I wish to say to the committee that in my opinion it was in the interests of the country that for the maintenance of historic traditions these expenditures should have been made. There has been an excellent result. I believe that the contact with the sister province of Quebec in reviving the old custom of having His Majesty's representative reside there a portion of each year has had very beneficial results. The representative is enabled to become better acquainted with the different portions of the country and particularly with the picturesque sections. To my mind that is something highly desirable and in the interests of the whole of Canada. I am satisfied that anybody who looks at the building will be delighted. The citizens of this country have the opportunity of visiting it and I regret the fact that any citizen has been refused admission. I think the application must not have been made in the manner in which my hon. friend would have made it. We have received value for the money expended, and I believe the result has more than justified the decision of the committee that the citadel should be restored. The original cost was great, and the building is of great value to Canada. I would particularly request members of this committee to visit the citadel when they have occasion to be in the city of Quebec, and in that way they may gather an idea of the value of this building.

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CON

Richard Burpee Hanson

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. HANSON:

The minister has spoken

seriously in regard to this matter. I think gentlemen on this side of the house are as much concerned as he is with the dignity of government. I want to tell the hon. gentleman that there is a growing conviction in this country that under his regime vice-royalty has been a very expensive proposition, and I think the committee should know how much viceroyalty has cost the country in the last few years. I venture to say the sum will astonish the taxpayers of this country. The money expended on Rideau hall, the citadel at Quebec, new private cars and the refurnishing of everything used by vice-royalty would astonish the taxpayers.

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LIB

John Campbell Elliott (Minister of Public Works)

Liberal

Mr. ELLIOTT:

I think the taxpayers have been kept pretty well informed from time to time.

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CON

Richard Burpee Hanson

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. HANSON:

I would like to have the

full information in regard to this matter; I would like to know how much it has cost in the last three years, and I ask the minister to get that information.

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LIB

John Campbell Elliott (Minister of Public Works)

Liberal

Mr. ELLIOTT:

I shall be pleased to give

our expenditures.

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CON

Richard Burpee Hanson

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. HANSON:

I am satisfied the amount will run into hundreds of thousands of dollars and will be very much more than it has been in previous years. We have had governors general going to Quebec year in and year out, but we have never had suggested anything like the expenditure on the citadel proposed by the present Minister of Public Works. I daresay his remarks were true when he told of the condition into which the citadel had fallen, but I think the sum required for reconstruction is extremely large, and he will have to justify the expenditure to this house and to the country. To my mind this would be a good place to close discussion so that the minister may have an opportunity to get the information. We want to have full details of the total expenditures for Rideau hall, for the citadel and for travelling accommodation for the governor general.

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LIB

John Campbell Elliott (Minister of Public Works)

Liberal

Mr. ELLIOTT:

I assume the hon. member does not require repetition of the information I have just given.

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CON

Richard Burpee Hanson

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. HANSON:

No, not as to the citadel.

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LIB

John Campbell Elliott (Minister of Public Works)

Liberal

Mr. ELLIOTT:

I shall be pleased to furnish the hon. member with any information I have as to the items he has mentioned. I would like to ask him how far back he wishes to go, because if he will compare the repairs and expenditures of recent years with those of past years he will find that in comparison the recent expenditures have been very moderate.

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CON

Robert James Manion

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. MANION:

To what years does the

minister refer?

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LIB

John Campbell Elliott (Minister of Public Works)

Liberal

Mr. ELLIOTT:

I would say about 1914

and 1915.

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CON

Robert James Manion

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. MANION:

How much was spent at

that time?

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LIB

John Campbell Elliott (Minister of Public Works)

Liberal

Mr. ELLIOTT:

Over $200,000 was spent

on Rideau hall.

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CON

Robert James Manion

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. MANION:

We are speaking of the

citadel at the present time.

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LIB

John Campbell Elliott (Minister of Public Works)

Liberal

Mr. ELLIOTT:

My hon. friend has referred to both the citadel and Rideau hall.

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CON

Richard Burpee Hanson

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. HANSON:

As far as I am concerned

the minister can go back as far as he likes; the farther back he goes, the better. What method is adopted in making these purchases? Are the purchases made through a government purchasing agent, or otherwise?

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LIB

John Campbell Elliott (Minister of Public Works)

Liberal

Mr. ELLIOTT:

They are made through

a purchasing agent.

Item stands.

Progress reported.

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May 2, 1930