June 13, 1929

CON

Alexander Duncan McRae

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. McRAE:

The amount which it is

proposed to vote for this year, $348,885, represents a very large increase over last year's appropriation of $200,100, an increase of 74 per cent in one year. I think the committee would be interested in knowing how this increase is accounted for.

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Pierre-Joseph-Arthur Cardin (Minister of Marine and Fisheries)

Liberal

Mr. CARDIN:

The increase is made up

of the following items:

(a) For the operation of the biological stations at St. Andrews, New Brunswick, and Nanaimo, British Columbia, necessitating additional scientific help for the former and a boat for the use of the latter station to be used on the west coast of Vancouver island, $5,275.

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LIB

Pierre-Joseph-Arthur Cardin (Minister of Marine and Fisheries)

Liberal

Mr. CARDIN:

It includes the scientific

help required.

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Alexander Duncan McRae

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. McRAE:

All I can say is that any

boat you can get for $5,000 will not go very far in the seas you get on the west coast of Vancouver island. It would not be much better than a rowboat.

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Pierre-Joseph-Arthur Cardin (Minister of Marine and Fisheries)

Liberal

Mr. CARDIN:

It is a very small boat

that is being purchased on the recommendation of the board. The other details are as follows:

(b) A new permanent building is required at Halifax. Due to the expansion of the work of instruction to fishermen and fishery officers, the present building in which are housed the laboratories, offices and class rooms, is far too small, so much so that all who applied for instruction this year could not be accommodated, $50,000.

At Halifax a boat is required to be specially fitted to demonstrate the best methods of handling and keeping fresh fish in good condition, $15,000.

The demonstration building requires a second storey to provide space for canning equipment and demonstration work, $9,500.

Eastern Passage marine laboratory, which was built to provide a necessary part of the training of students taking the university course of Fisheries Bachelor of Science, $10,000.

A new building is required at Prince Rupert to house the refrigeration plant for experimental and demonstration work, in view of the advance now taking place in rapid freezing, $16,000.

Refrigeration machinery for the above,

For additional scientific staff and the general operation of the above station, $11,460.

(c) To provide for a systematic investigation of the oyster fishery and to build a small laboratory for the work, $7,000.

Fish hatchery for experimental and demonstration work, $4,000.

Surveying lakes, especially of the prairie provinces (additional), $3,500.

Incidental expenses, $1,050.-Total, $148,785.

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Alexander Duncan McRae

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. McRAE:

I notice that there is a

large appropriation of $40,000 odd in connection with buildings and equipment and additional station staff at Prince Rupert. Who is in charge of that Prince Rupert station?

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James Charles Brady

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. BRADY:

This is a very interesting

and a very important subject. A part of the vote is for purely scientific work of an experimental nature and the other part is for practical work. I do not know how many members are really qualified to express in ordinary terms what a great number of these words mean, for instance, protozoa, diatoms and eopepods. What progress have we made in the study of this organic life which belongs to what is known as the plankton group? This group comprises a very remarkable family of roaming organic life found drifting in the waters, and includes the flora and the fauna of this particular group. A German expedition in 1894 made a thorough survey of this minute organic life in the Atlantic ocean, and I would ask the minister what data is available for us as to what is being done in that particular group?

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Pierre-Joseph-Arthur Cardin (Minister of Marine and Fisheries)

Liberal

Mr. CARDIN:

I am sure that my hon.

friend does not expect from me a detailed explanation of the work of the biological stations. I have no hesitation in confessing that I am far from being familiar with these scientific matters. Reports are published by the biological board in which all their activities are discussed. I might mention that one of the great problems in relation to the halibut on the Pacific coast was to prevent discolouration or yellowing, on account of which condition the price of the fish would be reduced by five or six cents a pound. The biological board have been studying that problem, and I believe that they have discovered a cure for the trouble. That discovery will be of great benefit to all interested in fisheries. In fact the head of one of the important British Columbia fishing companies stated that this one discovery and remedy would justify all the expenditure by the biological board.

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James Charles Brady

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. BRADY:

I am pleased to hear the

minister's statement. One of our finest food fish is the famous white spring salmon. I have seen these fish caught in the Dixon entrance as heavy as sixty and seventy pounds. Unfortunately owing to the prejudice against its lack of colour white spring salmon does not fetch more than two or three cents a pound, as against twelve or fourteen cents a pound for our red spring salmon. Would it not be worth while to undertake research work with a view to devising some innocuous method whereby this very valuable food fish could be put on the market as best red spring salmon?

I observe that the department is studying the habits of the wood-boring worm known

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as the teredo. Unless hon. gentlemen have visited the Pacific coast they can have no idea of how rapidly these wood-borers destroy our wharves. As the minister knows, after a freshly cut pile of about twenty-four inches in diameter has been in the water six weeks it is practically ruined. I would ask that the department continue their scientific wo'k in order to discover measures for checking this pest. How far has the investigation proceeded?

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Pierre-Joseph-Arthur Cardin (Minister of Marine and Fisheries)

Liberal

Mr. CARDIN:

The biological board is

studying the problem. I shall be pleased to draw the attention of the board to my hon. friends' representations.

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CON

Alexander Duncan McRae

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. McRAE:

Although the discolouration

of halibut has been known for some time by the men in the trade who handle halibut in a large way, I notice the biological board take a good deal of credit to themselves for their discovery. The discolouration comes about while the fish are in the hold of the vessel. What we need is some means of preventing this discolouration. The biological board should bend their efforts to a practical solution of the problem.

Progress reported.

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REPORT PRESENTED


Seventeenth report of the select standing committee on miscellaneous private bills.- Mr. Parent.


LOUIS COIT DARGAVEL

CON

Arza Clair Casselman

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. A. C. CASSELMAN (Grenville-Dun-das):

I beg to move, seconded by Mr. Stewart (Leeds):

That Bill No. 348 (letter 19 of the senate), intituled: "An act for the relief of Louis Coit Dargavel," be placed on the order paper this day.

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June 13, 1929