June 7, 1929

LIB

William Daum Euler (Minister of National Revenue)

Liberal

Mr. EULER:

I was not thinking of my hon. friend in that connection. Pugwash is closed.

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CON

Thomas Cantley

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. CANTLEY:

I regret that. Pugwash has been open since long before confederation-seven/ty-five years and more. In that port we have some foreign shipping and the closing of that office will be a distinct inconvenience to the people there; it is, I think, a very great mistake from every point of view. I appreciate the fact that the minister is guided by the very best intentions, but in this matter he has gone too far. A few years' experience will demonstrate that >to him. I am not suggesting political favouritism. I do not think there was any political interference at all; I am not making that charge so far as Pugwash is concerned. But I do say that it was a mistake to close the port and I should like the minister to reconsider his decision with respect to this particular port. I might advance various reasons but I will not do so now, because I have faith in the good intentions of the minister and I think that after consideration he will reverse his decision.

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LIB

William Daum Euler (Minister of National Revenue)

Liberal

Mr. EULER:

I will not say that I will

not give every consideration to the matter in any event, but I can give the hon. member this information. The salary paid was $560 per annum and the collections amounted to $162.89. The entries were seventy-four, a little more than one a week. The export entries were eleven; foreign going vessels arriving numbered four in the whole year and foreign vessels departing, eleven; coasting vessels arriving during the year numbered twenty-four and departing, seventeen. The postmaster is authorized to make collections on postal parcels and to enter and clear foreign going vessels. I have given the import duties, which amount to $162, and I have given the salary paid, $560; on the face of it there is a fairly good argument for closing the port.

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CON

Thomas Cantley

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. CANTLEY:

I am not arguing from

the revenue. Where a certain number of foreign going vessels enter and clear they have to change crews; how will they do it now?

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LIB

William Daum Euler (Minister of National Revenue)

Liberal

Mr. EULER:

1 am not familiar with the

situation.

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CON

Thomas Cantley

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. GANTLEY:

They must go to Pietou to do it. They have to engage new crews and pay off the old crews, and to do that they are obliged to go to Pietou, whereas formerly they did it in Pugwash.

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LIB

Peter John Veniot (Postmaster General)

Liberal

Mr. VENIOT:

The Pietou collector can

go to Pugwash.

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CON

Thomas Cantley

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. CANTLEY:

That is not the point.

The point is that we have had facilities for over seventy-five years and you have taken them away and we are not satisfied and will not be satisfied under these conditions.

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LIB
CON
LIB

Peter John Veniot (Postmaster General)

Liberal

Mr. VENIOT:

I was reasonable enough to accept it because I saw the necessity, if we are to follow the report of the Royal Commission on Customs and Excise, as some hon. gentlemen opposite suggest we should. But when we do so they blame us.

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CON

Harry Bernard Short

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. SHORT:

You have never heard anyone say you must follow it altogether.

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LIB
CON

Harry Bernard Short

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. SHORT:

You have never heard us

say you must follow it in toto.

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LIB

Peter John Veniot (Postmaster General)

Liberal

Mr. VENIOT:

I have heard hon. gentlemen blame us for not following the recommendations of the customs commission.

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CON

Harry Bernard Short

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. SHORT:

Not in everything; that is

a lame excuse. I say that the closing of these ports which have been in existence for years and years is creating a good deal of hardship in many cases in Nova Scotia. I have oited the case of Bear River; that was a point where the collections were over $2,000 a year, and1 instructions have been given to close it. How can the minister justify that?

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LIB

William Daum Euler (Minister of National Revenue)

Liberal

Mr. EULER:

Ports have been closed with a much higher revenue than $2,000.

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Peter John Veniot (Postmaster General)

Liberal

Mr. VENIOT:

For example, Port Elgin, in New Brunswick, with $9,000.

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Donald MacBeth Kennedy

United Farmers of Alberta

Mr. KENNEDY:

The minister the other

day made a statement which is reported in Hansard to this effect-

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Some hon. MEMBERS:

Eleven o'clock.

Progress reported.

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June 7, 1929