June 6, 1929

LAB

Abraham Albert Heaps

Labour

Mr. HEAPS:

The point is that the

Marconi Company was given a license by the Department of Marine and Fisheries which enabled it to compete with the government-owned Pacific cable system. I want to know from the minister whether, before that license was issued, his department took up the matter with any of the other departments of the government.

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LIB

Pierre-Joseph-Arthur Cardin (Minister of Marine and Fisheries)

Liberal

Mr. CARDIN:

This license was not issued during my time as minister, so I am not in a position to give the details, but I should think it would have been submitted to the Post Office Department and other departments interested in the cable. In any case, apparently it was thought that we should not refuse to issue a license which would permit of a very important experiment being carried on. I feel sure that the other' departments interested were consulted.

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LAB

Abraham Albert Heaps

Labour

Mr. HEAPS:

This is a very important

point. This beam service came into operation within the last few years; it began after I became a member of the house. I do not know exactly how long the minister has been in charge of the department, but I think the beam service between Australia and Canada was established in 1926. I am under the impression that the present minister was in charge of the department in that year, so that I do not think the reason he gave just now is valid. If possible I would like to obtain these particulars from the minister, because I think it is a very important matter when one department issues a license to a

private company which enables that company to compete with a publicly owned utility. In addition to that, so far as I have been able to ascertain we have received no concessions as a result of this service. All other countries which have the advantage of this new system have had their rates lowered by approximately one-third, but no reduction has been made in Canada.

I do not concede that it was necessary to issue this license; I believe the government could have operated the beam system as easily as it operated the cable system, but if the government was determined to issue the license I think it was the duty of the department to secure for this country the concessions which were obtained in other countries. I am afraid the minister is not very well acquainted with the affairs of his department in this regard, but I would like some information as to whether or not the other departments were consulted when the question of issuing this license to a private company was under consideration.

When the bill approving of this cable merger was before the house some time ago the Postmaster General said the license had been granted by the Department of Marine and Fisheries, and he had very little information to give the house. I think we should have all the information available on a question of this kind. It may be said that the matter has been disposed of, but in one sense that is not the case, because some time ago the Labour party in Great Britain stated that if they were returned to power they would repudiate this contract between the new corporation and the government. I am rather disappointed that the minister is not able to give us some information on an important question of this kind.

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Item agreed to. Radio service-to provide for the general improvement of reception conditions to licensed broadcast listeners, $237,160.


CON

Richard Bedford Bennett (Leader of the Official Opposition)

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. BENNETT:

I do not wish to delay the minister's estimates in any way, but I would suggest that the wording of this vote is rather strange.

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UFA

Henry Elvins Spencer

United Farmers of Alberta

Mr. SPENCER:

I would like to ask the

minister if he can give the house any information as to when the report of the radio commission will be presented?

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LIB

Pierre-Joseph-Arthur Cardin (Minister of Marine and Fisheries)

Liberal

Mr. CARDIN:

I am not able to give that information just now; the commissioners are still working and I cannot say when the report will be ready, but I do not think it will be very long now. I hope to have the report

Supply-Marine and Fisheries

in perhaps six weeks nr two months, but the commissioners have not visited the maritime provinces as yet.

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UFA

Henry Elvins Spencer

United Farmers of Alberta

Mr. SPENCER:

Is it the intention of the government to introduce legislation at the next session of parliament based upon the report which will be presented by the commissioners?

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LIB

Pierre-Joseph-Arthur Cardin (Minister of Marine and Fisheries)

Liberal

Mr. CARDIN:

I think at the next session we will be in a position to deal with the report, and we will have time to consider any legislation which may be made necessary by the report.

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LAB

Abraham Albert Heaps

Labour

Mr. HEAPS:

Referring again to the license issued to the Marconi Company for the operation of a beam service, is that an annual license?

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LIB

Pierre-Joseph-Arthur Cardin (Minister of Marine and Fisheries)

Liberal

Mr. CARDIN:

Yes.

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LAB

Abraham Albert Heaps

Labour

Mr. HEAPS:

I wonder if the minister will be good enough to have a copy of that license laid on the table?

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LIB

Pierre-Joseph-Arthur Cardin (Minister of Marine and Fisheries)

Liberal

Mr. CARDIN:

With pleasure.

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Item agreed to. To provide for the construction of an icebreaker for the Hudson strait, $759,000.


CON

Robert James Manion

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. M ANION:

Has the contract been let

for the construction of this icebreaker?

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LIB

Pierre-Joseph-Arthur Cardin (Minister of Marine and Fisheries)

Liberal

Mr. CARDIN:

Yes.

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CON
LIB

Pierre-Joseph-Arthur Cardin (Minister of Marine and Fisheries)

Liberal

Mr. CARDIN:

The Halifax Shipyard.

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Item agreed to. To provide for the construction of a new icebreaker for service in the St. Lawrence river, $359,000.


CON

Robert James Manion

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. MANION:

Could we have the same

information on this item?

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June 6, 1929