June 6, 1929

CON

Finlay MacDonald

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. MACDONALD (Richmond):

After the wreck of 1926.

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Pierre-Joseph-Arthur Cardin (Minister of Marine and Fisheries)

Liberal

Mr. CARDIN:

Yes.

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Finlay MacDonald

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. MACDONALD (Richmond):

After I

had brought the matter to the attention of the house. What class of gun is it?

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Pierre-Joseph-Arthur Cardin (Minister of Marine and Fisheries)

Liberal

Mr. CARDIN:

It is a line throwing gun.

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LIB

Pierre-Joseph-Arthur Cardin (Minister of Marine and Fisheries)

Liberal

Mr. CARDIN:

It is the standard size.

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Finlay MacDonald

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. MACDONALD (Richmond):

For the benefit of the minister I may say that the gun that is on the island is of absolutely no use to the people on the island. This is a fishing community, with twenty-five families living on the island, and they have no roads over which they can transport the gun which the government has supplied. That just shows the information which the government has as to conditions there. They have a gun that cannot even be transported from one

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place to another. The government should send someone to that island to make an inspection and see just what is necessary. The minister says that no lives were lost as a result of there not being proper life-saving devices. I tell him that five lives were lost in 1926 as a* result of not having the equipment to fire a line aboard a ship. The captain of that ship told me personally-I was with him for five or six days both on Scatarie island and in the town of Louisburg-he waited all night for a line to be fired aboard his ship, and all the time his ship was breaking up and the timber was going mountains high, huge timbers were being crushed to splinters, while he and his orew of thirty men watched the fires burning which the fishermen had lighted on the shore. Those five human lives could have been saved if there had been equipment on the island to fire a line aboard that ship, and I say it is up to this government to look into this situation and provide these life-saving facilities. The facilities could have been used every year in the last five years if they had been there, but there are not proper facilities on the island at the present time. What is there is wholly inadequate.

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Item agreed to. Hydrographic and tidal and current surveys, and to provide for the maintenance and repair of hydrographic steamers, $495,000.


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James Charles Brady

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. BRADY:

How many vessels are engaged in the hydrographic service at the present time and where are they stationed?

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Pierre-Joseph-Arthur Cardin (Minister of Marine and Fisheries)

Liberal

Mr. CARDIN:

On the Pacific coast we

have the steamer Lillooet and the auxiliary house boat the Somass. On the Atlantic coast we have the Acadia, the Cartier and the Bayfield.

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James Charles Brady

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. BRADY:

Have you any engaged in

the Hudson bay?

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Pierre-Joseph-Arthur Cardin (Minister of Marine and Fisheries)

Liberal

Mr. CARDIN:

The Acadia is going up

there this summer.

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James Charles Brady

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. BRADY:

Have you any on the great

inland lakes?

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Pierre-Joseph-Arthur Cardin (Minister of Marine and Fisheries)

Liberal

Mr. CARDIN:

We have none.

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James Charles Brady

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. BRADY:

I notice in the supplementary estimates there is a vote of $400,000 for a new hydrographic survey boat. Is that right?

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Pierre-Joseph-Arthur Cardin (Minister of Marine and Fisheries)

Liberal

Mr. CARDIN:

Yes.

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James Charles Brady

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. BRADY:

On what pant of the coast

will that boat be put in service?

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Pierre-Joseph-Arthur Cardin (Minister of Marine and Fisheries)

Liberal

Mr. CARDIN:

It is for general work on

the Pacific coast.

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James Charles Brady

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. BRADY:

We find along the British

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to the waters north of Vancouver and extending along the whole of Hecate strait, including the Queen Charlotte waters-that there is the greatest need for hydrographic survey work. Let me give an illustration of the hopeless lack of these surveys. A few weeks ago a large company engaged in very extensive logging operations on the Queen Charlotte islands entered into a contract with a transportation company to take out some million logs. The contract contained a clause which had been overlooked by one of the parties; it was to the effect that before the vessel would go into Moore channel the survey chart would have to be produced. There Was no survey chart for this channel. Telegrams were sent to Ottawa, and I took the matter up with the Department of National Revenue, thinking it came under that department. Then I went down to the hydrographic branch and found that the admiralty charts which were supposed to cover these waters had not been printed for years; in fact they are practically out of print and useless. This is the telegram that I received:

On account of extensive activities now going on west coast of Queen Charlotte islands the Queen Charlotte City board of trade request you immediately to take up matter of surveying Moore channel by steamer Lillooet to check up and supplement chart number two one six eight.

It was impossible for the Lillooet to be put on this survey work. The man concerned, had he failed to take out the logs, would have lost thousands of dollars. Therefore he had to go down to San Francisco and buy a steamer to carry out his contract.

At this moment I am not blaming anybody, directly, but I do wish to bring this home to the minister. The Lillooet, an eight hundred ton boat is not fitted to go out into the rough waters contiguous to the Queen Charlotte islands ; in a word, she is not capable of doing the hydrographic survey work along that coast. We are sadly lacking in up-to-date hydrographic survey boats capable of carrying on the work in those dangerous waters. I would impress upon the minister the urgent necessity of setting aside a boat exclusively for this work of charting the waters of the Hecate strait and the adjacent waters. Since the Lillooet cannot be spared from the Vancouver coast, I would recommend to the minister that now 'he is organizing and extending this very important survey work he should take steps to place a suitable hydrographic survey boat in these waters and keep her there for the next seven years on intensive hydrographic survey work.

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Pierre-Joseph-Arthur Cardin (Minister of Marine and Fisheries)

Liberal

Mr. CARDIN:

It is precisely because we

realize the importanace of what my hon.

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friend has referred to that in the supplementary estimates we are providing for a new boat.

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June 6, 1929