April 25, 1929

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An hon. MEMBER:

The ayes and nays were called.

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Richard Bedford Bennett (Leader of the Official Opposition)

Conservative (1867-1942)

Air. BENNETT:

On every occasion where it has been possible the majority of the committee has been summoned to prevent these investigations from being carried on.

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Richard Bedford Bennett (Leader of the Official Opposition)

Conservative (1867-1942)

Air. BENNETT:

I ask the minister to read the record. I know what he has seen in his experience in connection with public accounts. The committee has now adjourned until next Wednesday. On Wednesday an effort will be made to have it meet on Thursday alt ten o'clock, and on Friday at ten o'clock. Surely hon. members remember that the public accounts committee, when an opposition was investigating the Arctic accounts, sat for days and weeks and it dragged into a month before they got all the horrid details brought to the attention of the public. We are going to endeavour to do the same thing this year and to do so means that the will of a majority is not going to impose itself against the right to investigate the public accounts of Canada which represent moneys paid by the people of Canada and not by any one party. Let that be clearly understood.

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William Lyon Mackenzie King (Prime Minister; President of the Privy Council; Secretary of State for External Affairs)

Liberal

Right Hon. W. L. MACKENZIE KING (Prime Alinister):

I fail to see just exactly what the leader of the opposition has been asking for. I understood that the request of the hon. member for West Hamilton (Mr. Bell) was that a certain report, which is before the house at the moment, should be amended before it is accepted.

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Richard Bedford Bennett (Leader of the Official Opposition)

Conservative (1867-1942)

Air. BENNETT:

To carry out an agreement.

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William Lyon Mackenzie King (Prime Minister; President of the Privy Council; Secretary of State for External Affairs)

Liberal

Mr. MACKENZIE KING:

That is a matter of changing the wording of a report, and

a report that was signed by the chairman. The chairman happens to be absent at the moment; but if my hon. friend will permit me the time necessary to telephone him,

I will endeavour to get his consent to make a change that is a matter, as I gather it, not of any consequence beyond that of having the committee meet, if possible, at an earlier date.

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Leslie Gordon Bell

Conservative (1867-1942)

Air. BELL (Hamilton):

May I interrupt the Prime Minister just a moment? As the Prime Minister rose to his feet, I think the hon. member for Quebec West was about to say something further, and possibly he was about to express his acquiescence in what I had asked for. If that is the case, we can make progress.

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William Lyon Mackenzie King (Prime Minister; President of the Privy Council; Secretary of State for External Affairs)

Liberal

Air. MACKENZIE KING:

If other members of the committee are agreeable, it will facilitate matters, but the chairman who signed the document ought to know, before that document is changed, if there is an intention to alter it. I should not think we would be losing very much time if the motion were to stand over for another day. If it can be settled at the moment, so much the better. I object, however, to my hon. friend taking advantage of a discussion of the kind when a certain courtesy is being asked of the government-

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Richard Bedford Bennett (Leader of the Official Opposition)

Conservative (1867-1942)

Air. BENNETT:

It is not a courtesy; it

is a matter of right.

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Ernest Lapointe (Minister of Justice and Attorney General of Canada)

Liberal

Mr. LAPOINTE:

Do not insult the members of the committee.

Air. A1ACKENZIE KING: I do not see

why my hon. friend the leader of the opposition should lose his temper over it. It is not as serious as all that. The government is entirely in accord with the view of my hon. friend that the public accounts should be investigated whenever it is thought desirable to have them investigated, and that the fullest opportunity for investigation should be given. No one takes any other view.

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Richard Bedford Bennett (Leader of the Official Opposition)

Conservative (1867-1942)

Air. BENNETT:

They act the other way.

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Ernest Lapointe (Minister of Justice and Attorney General of Canada)

Liberal

Air. LAPOINTE:

It is a most unfair reflection.

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William Lyon Mackenzie King (Prime Minister; President of the Privy Council; Secretary of State for External Affairs)

Liberal

Air. MACKENZIE KING:

It is possible that we can arrange to meet my hon. friend in the way that has been suggested, but if the other members of the committee have some substantial reason for not acquiescing in my hon. friend's request at the moment, we shall have to ask him to let the matter stand until to-morrow, and in the interval I will get into communication with the chairman of the committee.

Public Accounts Committee

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Leslie Gordon Bell

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. BELL (Hamilton):

I am only speaking in answer to what the Prime Minister has just said. Is that out of order, Mr. Speaker?

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April 25, 1929