March 21, 1929

CON

Richard Bedford Bennett (Leader of the Official Opposition)

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. BENNETT:

The producers are represented on that board?

Topic:   GRADING OF GRAIN
Subtopic:   WHEAT-INSPECTION, SHIPMENT AND PROTEIN CONTENT-REFERENCE TO COMMITTEE ON AGRICULTURE
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CON

James J. Donnelly

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. DONNELLY:

That board is made up of representatives of the producers, the millers and the grain trade. These men meet about the first of October in Winnipeg and set the standards.

I will explain further what I mean with regard to this diverting of wheat. Of necessity, some of the wheat in No. 1 grade will be right down on the line at 90, and will range up to 100. When the wheat comes into Winnipeg, or into the Grain Exchange building to be inspected, it first goes into the room where the inspectors are. The grade is fixed on the sample and it is then put in an adjoining room where it is available to everyone. Suppose we have a sample which runs as high as 100. A representative of some milling firm from across the line comes in and sees that sample classed as No. 1. He realizes that it is right at the top of the grade, and he says, "Send that ,to my mixing elevator," and the car of Wheat is sent to the elevator to be mixed, or possibly sent to some mill to be milled. The result is that they have bought the cream and there is nothing left but the wheat which is just on the line. Then again, you may have a wheat so near the border line that the inspectors are unable to decide whether it should be graded No. 1 or No. 2. It is put in No. 2 and when the expert comes along he sees that it should probably be No. 1, and he buys the car to be sent to the elevator to be mixed with other grades of wheat.

Topic:   GRADING OF GRAIN
Subtopic:   WHEAT-INSPECTION, SHIPMENT AND PROTEIN CONTENT-REFERENCE TO COMMITTEE ON AGRICULTURE
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LAB

Herbert Bealey Adshead

Labour

Mr. ADSHEAD:

He buys it as No. 2?

Topic:   GRADING OF GRAIN
Subtopic:   WHEAT-INSPECTION, SHIPMENT AND PROTEIN CONTENT-REFERENCE TO COMMITTEE ON AGRICULTURE
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CON

James J. Donnelly

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. DONNELLY:

He pays the price for

No. 2, but he is getting practically No. 1 wheat. Not only do they do. that, but during the past season, as has been brought out before the royal gram commission sitting in Saskatchewan at the present time, they have gone through the railroad yards accompanied by inspectors and have broken the seals on cars and picked out the best grain. This procedure has taken place at Kenora, Calgary, Saskatoon and all over the country.

Topic:   GRADING OF GRAIN
Subtopic:   WHEAT-INSPECTION, SHIPMENT AND PROTEIN CONTENT-REFERENCE TO COMMITTEE ON AGRICULTURE
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LAB

Abraham Albert Heaps

Labour

Mr. HEAPS:

What authority have they to go in and take the cars out of the yards?

Topic:   GRADING OF GRAIN
Subtopic:   WHEAT-INSPECTION, SHIPMENT AND PROTEIN CONTENT-REFERENCE TO COMMITTEE ON AGRICULTURE
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CON

James J. Donnelly

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. DONNELLY:

You will have to ask the grain commissioners. They are the ones who say what shall and what shall not be done.

Topic:   GRADING OF GRAIN
Subtopic:   WHEAT-INSPECTION, SHIPMENT AND PROTEIN CONTENT-REFERENCE TO COMMITTEE ON AGRICULTURE
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UFA

Edward Joseph Garland

United Farmers of Alberta

Mr. GARLAND (Bow River):

Have they any authority?

Topic:   GRADING OF GRAIN
Subtopic:   WHEAT-INSPECTION, SHIPMENT AND PROTEIN CONTENT-REFERENCE TO COMMITTEE ON AGRICULTURE
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CON

James J. Donnelly

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. DONNELLY:

No.

Topic:   GRADING OF GRAIN
Subtopic:   WHEAT-INSPECTION, SHIPMENT AND PROTEIN CONTENT-REFERENCE TO COMMITTEE ON AGRICULTURE
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UFA

William Irvine

United Farmers of Alberta

Mr. IRVINE:

Was that done under any

authority?

Topic:   GRADING OF GRAIN
Subtopic:   WHEAT-INSPECTION, SHIPMENT AND PROTEIN CONTENT-REFERENCE TO COMMITTEE ON AGRICULTURE
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CON

James J. Donnelly

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. DONNELLY:

Apparently not.

Topic:   GRADING OF GRAIN
Subtopic:   WHEAT-INSPECTION, SHIPMENT AND PROTEIN CONTENT-REFERENCE TO COMMITTEE ON AGRICULTURE
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LAB

James Shaver Woodsworth

Labour

Mr. WOODSWORTH:

Who actually affixes the seals?

Topic:   GRADING OF GRAIN
Subtopic:   WHEAT-INSPECTION, SHIPMENT AND PROTEIN CONTENT-REFERENCE TO COMMITTEE ON AGRICULTURE
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CON

James J. Donnelly

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. DONNELLY:

The railway companies.

MARCH 21, 1929 H51

Grading I Grain-Mr. Carmichael

Topic:   GRADING OF GRAIN
Subtopic:   WHEAT-INSPECTION, SHIPMENT AND PROTEIN CONTENT-REFERENCE TO COMMITTEE ON AGRICULTURE
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LAB

Herbert Bealey Adshead

Labour

Mr. ADSHEAD:

If the railway companies

put them on. has anyone the right to take them off before the car reaches its destination?

Topic:   GRADING OF GRAIN
Subtopic:   WHEAT-INSPECTION, SHIPMENT AND PROTEIN CONTENT-REFERENCE TO COMMITTEE ON AGRICULTURE
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CON

James J. Donnelly

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. DONNELLY:

Only with the consent

of the railway company.

Topic:   GRADING OF GRAIN
Subtopic:   WHEAT-INSPECTION, SHIPMENT AND PROTEIN CONTENT-REFERENCE TO COMMITTEE ON AGRICULTURE
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LIB

John Vallance

Liberal

Mr. V ALLANCE:

The inspection department.

Topic:   GRADING OF GRAIN
Subtopic:   WHEAT-INSPECTION, SHIPMENT AND PROTEIN CONTENT-REFERENCE TO COMMITTEE ON AGRICULTURE
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CON

James J. Donnelly

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. DONNELLY:

The inspection department have the consent of the railway companies to break the seals to inspect the grain.

These are questions which can be brought out only in the committee, and that is why I think the whole thing should be sent to the committee to be dealt with there. These are questions which interest the farmers, not only in western Canada, but over the whole of the Dominion, and I think the matter should be sent to the agriculture committee to be looked into with the view of enacting remedial legislation.

Topic:   GRADING OF GRAIN
Subtopic:   WHEAT-INSPECTION, SHIPMENT AND PROTEIN CONTENT-REFERENCE TO COMMITTEE ON AGRICULTURE
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PRO

Archibald M. Carmichael

Progressive

Mr. A. M. CARMICHAEL (Kindersley):

Mr. Speaker, I do not believe I should find it necessary to make any apology for continuing thiie debate. I consider this matter to be one of major importance, in fact, I am not so sure but that it transcends in importance even the debate upon the budget. Therefore, not having any intention of taking part in the budget debate, I feel quite clear in my conscience when I take some part in this debate.

I say this matter transcends in importance the budget debate, more particularly for financial reasons. When the Minister of Finance (Mr. Robb) brought down this budget and announced that he was saving the tax-payers of Canada approximately $26,000,000, because of certain reductions in taxation, that fact was received with approval throughout the length and breadth of Canada. Twenty-five million dollars is a large sum of money; it is more than moat of us have ever seen or are likely to see. But I want to make this statement: Because of the unscientific grading of our 1928 wheat crop and the ineffectual administration of the Canada Grain Act in relation thereto, the farmers of western Canada have 'been deprived of an amount seven times as large. I see the Minister of Trade and Commerce (Mr. Malcolm) draws a big sigh.

Topic:   GRADING OF GRAIN
Subtopic:   WHEAT-INSPECTION, SHIPMENT AND PROTEIN CONTENT-REFERENCE TO COMMITTEE ON AGRICULTURE
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LIB

James Malcolm (Minister of Trade and Commerce)

Liberal

Mr. MALCOLM:

One hundred and seventy-five million?

Topic:   GRADING OF GRAIN
Subtopic:   WHEAT-INSPECTION, SHIPMENT AND PROTEIN CONTENT-REFERENCE TO COMMITTEE ON AGRICULTURE
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PRO

Archibald M. Carmichael

Progressive

Mr. CARMICHAEL:

I hope this will get under his skin sufficiently to cause not only a little perturbation of feeling, but some action, for that is what we are looking for in western Canada. He may be inclined to

question the statement I am going to make, but I intend to prove it with figures.

The wheat crop of the prairie provinces for the year 1928 amounted to 511,444,000 bushels in round figures. Let us take the average price received for the four years during which the wheat pool operated in western Canada, namely 1924, 1925, 1926 and 1927. I do not intend to take the maximum price, but only the average price as given in the January, 1929, monthly Bulletin of Agriculture Statistics. The average price received during the year 1924 was $1.21 per bushel.

Topic:   GRADING OF GRAIN
Subtopic:   WHEAT-INSPECTION, SHIPMENT AND PROTEIN CONTENT-REFERENCE TO COMMITTEE ON AGRICULTURE
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LIB

Malcolm McLean

Liberal

Mr. McLEAN (Melfort):

What was the yield for that year?

Topic:   GRADING OF GRAIN
Subtopic:   WHEAT-INSPECTION, SHIPMENT AND PROTEIN CONTENT-REFERENCE TO COMMITTEE ON AGRICULTURE
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March 21, 1929