May 29, 1928

LIB

Ernest Lapointe (Minister of Justice and Attorney General of Canada)

Liberal

Mr. LAPOINTE:

I have no doubt he is an excellent man. I do not say that any one of these gentlemen who were recommended was not perfectly qualified to conduct proceedings for the department.

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CON

Alfred Burke Thompson

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. THOMPSON:

The Minister of Justice has mentioned my name, so I might say that some man had not paid his income tax and the department wanted to know of a lawyer to handle the case.

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LIB

Ernest Lapointe (Minister of Justice and Attorney General of Canada)

Liberal

Mr. LAPOINTE:

I have no doubt about that.

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CON

Thomas Erlin Kaiser

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. KAISER:

I do not think it is fair to these men to ridicule their names in this way. I want to say that Mr. Swanson was recommended by me and his name Should be received by this government with respect, because he is one of the best criminal lawyers in our section of the country. I do not think it right that the Liberal party, or any other party, should take so much amusement out of the mention of his name.

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CON

Leslie Gordon Bell

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. BELL (Hamilton):

I think the minister should go on.

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LIB

Ernest Lapointe (Minister of Justice and Attorney General of Canada)

Liberal

Mr. LAPOINTE:

I am in the judgment of the committee. I do not blame anyone; I am merely stating the practice. I said there was a list in the department which was used by me prior to 1928; I had found that list when I came there and I had used it, but when I came back two or three months later the list was altogether changed. I started to say that it included new men all over the country, and if I am reading all these names it is just because my hon. friends opposite are

asking me to do so. I do not attach any blame to them; I quite agree that any one of the gentlemen recommended by my hon. friends was quite qualified to act as the legal agent of the department.

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CON

Robert James Manion

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. MANION:

Might I ask a question?

I suppose the list the minister is using _ at present-because of course he is not using this one-is made up in exactly the same way, on the recommendations of his friends?

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LIB

Ernest Lapointe (Minister of Justice and Attorney General of Canada)

Liberal

Mr. LAPOINTE:

Let me tell my hon. friend that when I found that new list, largely composed of men I did not know, I rather reinstated the old list, and surely my hon. friends will not criticize me for using that list which I left there when we took that little holiday of two or three months.

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CON

Robert James Manion

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. MANION:

I do not criticize my hon. friend at all; I just wanted to show the house that my hon. friend is doing exactly what his party are laughing at us for having done.

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LIB

Ernest Lapointe (Minister of Justice and Attorney General of Canada)

Liberal

Mr. LAPOINTE:

I am using the list which I had prior to July, 1926; that is quite true, and let me say right here that I do not think there are not enough Conservative lawyers all over the country to act as legal agents of the government in a proper way and to carry on the cases of the department in a dignified and reliable way, but there are Liberal lawyers all over Canada who are equally qualified. The idea that because a man is selected by one party he is not qualified, does not appeal to me. As I say, I do not criticize the recommendations which were made by my hon friends or even the List which was prepared; I am quite sure that most of these men were qualified to do the work.

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CON

Harry Bernard Short

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. SHORT:

Then why take so much amusement from it?

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LIB

Ernest Lapointe (Minister of Justice and Attorney General of Canada)

Liberal

Mr. LAPOINTE:

The amusement is caused by the attitude of my hon. friends opposite.

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CON

Leslie Gordon Bell

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. BELL (Hamilton):

Does not the

minister understand that the criticism which has come from this side of the house has nothing to do with the recommendation of people to do that work, but arises rather out of the fact that when they were appointed they did not do their duty, and the department took no action?

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LIB

Ernest Lapointe (Minister of Justice and Attorney General of Canada)

Liberal

Mr. LAPOINTE:

I beg my hon. friend's pardon; it was stated in the famous report by Mr. Sparks that under the present administration the Department of Justice is employing lawyers only because they are Liberals.

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CON

Leslie Gordon Bell

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. BELL (Hamilton):

We are not saying that.

Business oj the House

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LIB

Ernest Lapointe (Minister of Justice and Attorney General of Canada)

Liberal

Mr. LAPOINTE:

I think my hon. friend from Vancouver Centre said that it never had been worse than under the present minister. I am simply showing what the practice always has been; as soon as my hon. friends opposite took charge of the government they did the same thing, and I am amazed that they had time to prepare a list covering all Canada in the short period during which they held office.

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CON

Thomas Cantley

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. CANTLEY:

Will the minister do me a kindness? Will he be good enough to read the names of the gentlemen I recommended, because I would like them to know I was looking after their interest.

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LIB

Ernest Lapointe (Minister of Justice and Attorney General of Canada)

Liberal

Mr. LAPOINTE:

I will do that with great pleasure.

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CON

George Reginald Geary

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. GEARY:

Are there as many new lawyers as new postmasters?

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LIB

Ernest Lapointe (Minister of Justice and Attorney General of Canada)

Liberal

Mr. LAPOINTE:

No, fortunately. Now I will conclude the names of the Ontario list, unless the committee think I have read enough.

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May 29, 1928