May 22, 1928

CON

Thomas Edward Simpson

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. SIMPSON:

Then can the minister explain why Baldwin's, Limited, have closed their factory in Canada and gone to Australia, if high tariff is a deterring factor?

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James Alexander Robb (Minister of Finance and Receiver General)

Liberal

Mr. ROBB:

Baldwin's got hold of a plant in Canada that was used for making munitions; they got it at a bargain. They had made a lot of money out of it during the war, but I do not think they ever opened that plant since. They had bought it for a song, thinking that they might operate it, but after looking into the matter, they decided not.

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LIB

James Alexander Robb (Minister of Finance and Receiver General)

Liberal

Mr. ROBB:

My hon. friend knows, and I will accept his statement.

The Duncan commission in its survey of the iron and steel industry of the maritime provinces had before them the statistics of that industry for the year 1925, because the commission was sitting during the summer of 1926, and it was only reasonable to suppose that when they were inquiring into that industry they would look up the general statistics of the iron and steel industry of Canada, because my hon. friends must remember that there are other provinces in Canada that are interested in the iron and steel industry besides the province of Nova Scotia. Now, what were the conditions in 1925? I find from the reports of the Bureau of Statistics for the year 1927 that the number of employees in the iron and steel industry increased from 1925 by 15 600; in other words, there are 15.000 more employees in the iron and steel industry throughout all Canada than there were in 1925.

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Thomas Cantley

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. CANTLEY:

Will the minister allow me to correct him? I am quite sure he does not intend to mislead the house, but the figures that he is giving take in all the subsidiary industries that use iron and steel. They do not deal simply with the primary products.

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LIB

James Alexander Robb (Minister of Finance and Receiver General)

Liberal

Mr. ROBB:

Certainly, and the government has to do with all the iron and steel industries throughout this great Dominion. We cannot legislate for one industry alone.

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LIB

James Alexander Robb (Minister of Finance and Receiver General)

Liberal

Mr. ROBB:

Well, we are not doing it now In 1925 the total number of employees in the iron and steel industry, as given by the Bureau of Statistics, was 90,125.

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Thomas Cantley

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. CANTLEY:

That includes all subsidiary iron and steel working and fabricating shops small and large through Canada.

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James Alexander Robb (Minister of Finance and Receiver General)

Liberal

Mr. ROBB:

Taking in all the industries, and in 1927 the number was 105,782. The selling value of the products of the iron and steel industry in 1925 was $411,378,640, and in 1927, $515,971,445.

My hon. friend a few moments ago complained of conditions in the coal industry in Nova Scotia. Well, in 1928, when the Duncan commission were considering the coal industry, they had before them the statistics for 1925, and I find that there were engaged in the coal industry of Nova Scotia-I am quoting now the sort of figures that will please my hon. friend from Pictou (Mr. Cantley)-8,333 employees and in 1927, there were 13,975 employees in that great industry.

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LIB

James Alexander Robb (Minister of Finance and Receiver General)

Liberal

Mr. ROBB:

I am quoting the year which the Duncan commission had before them But I will take another year. The number of employees in that great industry in 1926 was 12,100, and in 1927, 13,975.

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Robert James Manion

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. MANION:

While my hon. friend is quoting statistics, will he give the importations of iron and steel into this country?

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LIB

James Alexander Robb (Minister of Finance and Receiver General)

Liberal

Mr. ROBB:

I have not that before me. but my hon. friend will find it on the record; it was quoted a moment ago.

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CON

Robert James Manion

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. MANION:

I know it quite well. It was $250,000,000 in one year.

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LIB

Ernest Lapointe (Minister of Justice and Attorney General of Canada)

Liberal

Mr. LAPOINTE:

Then why ask the question?

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CON

Robert James Manion

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. MANION:

The minister is putting on the record figures that suit him, and I would like the other side put on the record at the same time.

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LIB

James Alexander Robb (Minister of Finance and Receiver General)

Liberal

Mr. ROBB:

There are more people engaged in the iron and steel industry throughout Canada to-day than there were in 1925.

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CON

Robert James Manion

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. MANION:

And more people engaged in foreign countries producing the same kind of products.

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May 22, 1928