February 22, 1928

CON

Robert James Manion

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. MANION:

No; I said that our people were going to the United States.

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LIB

Frederick George Sanderson

Liberal

Mr. SANDERSON:

I am sorry I have not a copy of Hansard here in order to read the speech of the hon. member.

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CON

Robert James Manion

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. MANION:

I wish you would.

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LIB

Frederick George Sanderson

Liberal

Mr. SANDERSON:

All this time is being taken out of my forty minutes, Mr. Speaker, so I would simply advice hon. members to read carefully the speech of the hon. member for Fort William and see just what he said, because he certainly referred to unemployment.

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CON

Robert James Manion

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. MANION:

Hear, hear.

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LIB

Frederick George Sanderson

Liberal

Mr. SANDERSON:

Yes, indeed. Well,

Mr. Speaker, I do not say this unkindly, but my hon. friend is pretty well employed; he is not only holding down one job but has two positions at fairly good salaries, if I am informed correctly. And then, not satisfied with being a member of the liquor control board of Ontario, which position he is filling very efficiently; not satisfied with being a member of this house, which position he is also filling efficiently, he attempted to get a third position in Winnipeg last October. Now, I ask him in all fairness whether, if he had been fortunate enough to secure what he went after in Winnipeg-and he made a fairly

good run, among others-he would have attempted to hold all three of those positions, or whether he would have given some of them up?

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CON

Robert James Manion

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. MANION:

Does my hon. friend wish an answer now?

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LIB

Frederick George Sanderson

Liberal

Mr. SANDERSON:

Yes, I will give my hon. friend a moment in which to answer.

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CON

Robert James Manion

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. MANION:

Then I will tell my hon. friend that I would have decided what to do after I had obtained the leadership.

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LIB

Frederick George Sanderson

Liberal

Mr. SANDERSON:

But my hon. friend did not get the leadership.

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CON

Robert James Manion

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. MANION:

I do not cross any bridges until I come to them.

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LIB

Frederick George Sanderson

Liberal

Mr. SANDERSON:

My hon. friend was like Barkis; he was apparently willing-we will just leave it at that. But my hon. friend had better not dwell too much on unemployment in Canada, I think. Two years ago in this house, speaking on the budget, he very frequently referred to Providence, and said Providence was taking care of this country in spite of the fact that we happened to have a Liberal government in power at Ottawa. I quite agree with him; Providence is over us all individually and collectively, political parties as well as everything else; but perhaps my hon. friend forgets that Providence has been guiding .the affairs of this country since 1921 by permitting a Liberal government to remain in power.

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An hon. MEMBER:

It was the Progressives who did that.

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LIB

Frederick George Sanderson

Liberal

Mr. SANDERSON:

I did not catch the interjection. Speaking of Providence in connection with the hon. member for Fort William, I think he has a strain of religion in him, and I commend him for it. In his youth he must have thought of going into the ministry. In later years he has tried twice to get into the ministry; he succeeded on both occasions but did not stay there very long. I hope he will continue to place his faith in Providence, and remember that if a Liberal government happens to be in power at Ottawa it is because a kind Providence has placed them there.

My hon. friend referred to the Department of Soldiers' Civil Re-establishment, and again I hope that- in what I am going to say I am not misquoting him; I will cheerfully withdraw any remarks which transgress the rules in any way. From my recollection of what he said yesterday the hon. member was criticizing the Department of Soldiers Civil Re-establishment. He said that the expenses

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in connection with the administration of that department were increasing, and that the increase had been some $35,000 last year over the year before.

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CON

Robert James Manion

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. MANION:

I should like to correct my hon. friend; he is misquoting me again. I am sorry to take up the time of the house but I do it in good faith. If my hon. friend will permit me, what I said was that the two departments, the Department of Health and the Department of Soldiers' Civil Reestablishment, had this year $35,000 more estimates than the same two departments had last year. That is all I said.

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LIB

Frederick George Sanderson

Liberal

Mr. SANDERSON:

I understood my hon. friend to say that the $35,000 was charged against the Department of Soldiers' Civil Re-establishment.

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CON

Robert James Manion

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. MANION:

No; my hon. friend read my speech too hurriedly.

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LIB

Frederick George Sanderson

Liberal

Mr. SANDERSON:

I was under the impression my hon. friend had made the statement. However, getting back to the Department of Soldiers' Civil Re-establishment, as a returned soldier I want to say that if there was inefficiency in the administration of the department, and it was necessary to increase the expenditure in the interest of efficiency,

I am quite certain that my hon. friend, also a returned soldier, would not object to that increase, and that if it cost the country not $35,000 but a still greater amount, to give the returned soldiers a fair, square deal, I think my hon. friend will agree the expenditure should be made.

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CON

Robert James Manion

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. MANION:

Hear, hear.

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LIB

Frederick George Sanderson

Liberal

Mr. SANDERSON:

Again, if I have misquoted or misrepresented the hon. member for Fort William in any way I am verry sorry. The hon. member for Fort William indulged in prophecy as to what was going to happen at the next general election. I think he is a false prophet. I have heard him prophesy before.

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February 22, 1928