April 8, 1927

UFA

Robert Gardiner

United Farmers of Alberta

Mr. GARDINER:

When the new Welland canal was first projected certain estimates were made of economies in freight rates on grain and other commodities. Nlo doubt the minister has those estimates on file in his office; he may possibly have them with him to-might. It would be interesting to find out what saving it is expected will be made in consequence of the deepening of the canal.

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LIB

Charles Avery Dunning (Minister of Railways and Canals)

Liberal

Mr. DUNNING:

I have not the information here. I admit its bearing upon the project as at first introduced, but I suggest that once we have spent $75,000,000 in the undertaking we cannot leave it incomplete. The question is whether we shall finish it or abandon the work that has already been done. We cannot take advantage of that work unless we complete the project, and we cannot continue using the present canal indefinitely. The present canal is being maintained on an operating basis in anticipation of the completion of the new one.

Supply-Railways and Canals

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LIB

George Spence

Liberal

Mr. SPENCE (Maple Creek):

What differences will there be between the new canal and the present waterway in regard to locks?

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LIB

Charles Avery Dunning (Minister of Railways and Canals)

Liberal

Mr. DUNNING:

The difference will be eight locks as against twenty-six, and eight hours instead of fifteen in the passage of vessels through the canal.

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UFA

Robert Gardiner

United Farmers of Alberta

Mr. GARDINER:

Has the minister any information to give in regard to facilities further down the lakes to take care of traffic? What will be the ultimate cost?

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LIB
UFA

Robert Gardiner

United Farmers of Alberta

Mr. GARDINER:

The cost of the elevators at the points where the new headquarters will be.

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LIB

Charles Avery Dunning (Minister of Railways and Canals)

Liberal

Mr. DUNNING:

That is under consideration at the present moment.

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UFA

Lincoln Henry Jelliff

United Farmers of Alberta

Mr. JELLIFF:

What portion of the canal has already been constructed and how many more years will it be before the work is completed?

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LIB

Charles Avery Dunning (Minister of Railways and Canals)

Liberal

Mr. DUNNING:

The whole work is now

under contract, and we anticipate that it will last another three years.

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CON

Arthur Edward Ross

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. ROSS (Kingston):

May I ask the

minister if the department has taken into consideration the length of time required in the- preparation of a terminal, whether temporary or permanent?

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LIB

Charles Avery Dunning (Minister of Railways and Canals)

Liberal

Mr. DUNNING:

Of course I appreciate

my hon. friend's interest; his question is very intelligent, emanating as it does from the hon. member for Kingston, one of the points which would be very materially affected by our decision. The factor to which he refers is being taken into account in the investigation now in progress.

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CON

Arthur Edward Ross

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. ROSS (Kingston):

I feel sure that we can trust the minister, but the point I had in mind was that the canal is expected to be open in 1930. Supposing it takes longer than two years to prepare a terminal, what will happen to the traffic going through the canal in the interval between the completion of the canal and the completion of the terminal?

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LIB

Charles Avery Dunning (Minister of Railways and Canals)

Liberal

Mr. DUNNING:

Our engineering advice is that there will be no difficulty in providing the necessary new terminals in the time still available.

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CON

Thomas Langton Church

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. CHURCH:

The minister says the

canal will not be completed until 1930. I would point out to him that over two billion dollars has been spent on railways in Canada

while only about one-tenth of that amount has been spent on canals. It is very important to the people of Canada that this canal be completed with all convenient speed, because this canal provides most of the revenue so far as the Department of Railways and Canals is concerned. The rapid completion of this canal is of the utmost importance not only to Ontario but to the transportation of the whole Dominion. Last year the old canal handled nearly six million tons, and there has been a yearly increase of twelve and one-half per cent. The work of building the canal has been proceeding since 1913, and we are told now that it will not be finished until 1930, or seventeen years in which to build a canal about twenty-seven miles long. The annual report of the minister is very encouraging with regard to the work accomplished, but I am sorry I have not before me the figures from the Bureau of Statistics. I may tell some of my hon. friends to my left that this is an economic canal and will be a very great help when finished. Therefore I would urge upon the minister the necessity of finishing the construction of this work as rapidly as possible, and to try and complete it before 1930.

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Item agreed to. Lachine, improvements, $76,000.


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LIB

Charles Avery Dunning (Minister of Railways and Canals)

Liberal

Mr. DUNNING:

This is one of the important St. Lawrence canals at Montreal. The present Lachine canal power house cannot continue in operation without extensive repairs, and even after such repairs the fire hazard in the oil-soaked timber portions of this old building would be unwarranted. It is therefore proposed to construct at Cote St. Paul a new power plant to replace the present Mill street plant. That is the major portion of the expenditure.

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Item agreed to. St. Peters Canal-to pay to the Atlantic Dredging Company further interest from July 16, 1926, at rate of 5 per cent per annum on claim of $12,151.96, $607.60.


UFA

April 8, 1927