April 8, 1927

OBJECTIONS TO PROPOSED EXCEPTIONS TO APPLICATION OF INCREASE


On the Orders of the Day:


CON

Henry Herbert Stevens

Conservative (1867-1942)

Hon. H. H. STEVENS (Vancouver Centre):

I desire to bring to the attention of the government two telegrams which have been placed in my hands, the subject matter of which is of sufficient importance to justify taking that course at the present stage of the proceedings of the House. One telegram is signed by the secretary of the Amalgamated Civil Servants of Canada, Vancouver Local Council. It is addressed to me and reads as follows:

Six hundred civil servants at mass meeting here passed following resolution without one dissenting vote:

"That we most strongly protest the offer of from forty-two to sixty dollars per annum in-

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crease in most cases publicly advertised as hundred and twenty dollars flat rate increase for all civil servants after waiting patiently for five years for some measure of justice. We emphatically condemn the assumption that we received an increase in pay in nineteen hundred and twenty-four and protest against using such imaginary increase in order to deprive us of the full benefit of the recent revision. We reiterate our request for a flat increase of three hundred dollars per annum for all with a minimum of hundred dollars for all full time adult occupations and respectfully solicit your support on the floor of the House of Commons so that salaries in the Canadian civil service may be raised to the level of respectability. This for your Vancouver colleagues also."

I also have a wire from the railway mail clerks in which they declare that in some cases the change has actually resulted in a decrease. The point I wish to bring to the attention of the government is this: It was officially

announced by the government, I think through the lips of the Secretary of State, that a flat increase of $120 a year was given to all civil servants. In the working out of the salary revision it appears that in some cases there has been a decrease; in other cases the increase is only from $42 to $60 a year and not $120. I would ask from the government that some statement should be made explaining the apparent discrepancy between the first announcement that there was a flat increase of $120 and what appears to be the actual result.

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LIB

Louis Édouard Fernand Rinfret (Secretary of State of Canada)

Liberal

Hon. FERNAND RINFRET (Secretary of State):

This subject is becoming a matter of daily interrogation. I have stated many times, and it seemed to have been agreed upon by hon. gentlemen opposite, that the whole question might be explained when we reached the supplementary estimates dealing with this matter. I desire to state now that the announcement made to the House was very plain. It was to the effect that we were giving a flat increase to the whole service, but the statement was immediately qualified by reservations as to some classes who have received increases since 1924.

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CON

Henry Herbert Stevens

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. STEVENS:

Which they deny.

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LIB

Louis Édouard Fernand Rinfret (Secretary of State of Canada)

Liberal

Mr. RINFRET:

Well, the whole point seems to rest on the fact that those civil servants who had received increases previously do not consider those increases any more, but are thinking of the amount it is possible to receive under the present revision. I am willing to give consideration to all these representations, to my department since my declaration, which have been very numerous, but it would be better, I think, if we were to discuss the whole matter when we come to consider the supplementary estimates.

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CON

Arthur Edward Ross

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. A. E. ROSS (Kingston City):

I have a question along the same line. I was going to ask the Secretary of State if he had received messages protesting against the character of the increase.

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LIB

Louis Édouard Fernand Rinfret (Secretary of State of Canada)

Liberal

Mr. RINFRET:

I believe every hon. member of the House has received such telegrams. It would be better, I think, if they were read in proper sequence.

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LIB

Henri-Edgar Lavigueur

Liberal

Mr. H. E. LAVIGUEUR (Quebec-Mont-morency) (Translation):

Mr. Speaker, I received this morning a telegram from Branch No. 5 of the Federated Association of Letter Carriers of Quebec, in which they complain of the same discrimination as mentioned just now by the hon. member for St. Denis (Mr. Denis). The telegram reads as follows:

H. E. Laviguf.ur,

Ottawa, Ont.

At a mass meeting of members of Branch No. 5 Quebec of the Federated Association of Letter Carriers it was unanimously resolved to protest energetically against the miserable increase of seventy eight cents per week in salary for the letter carriers we sincerely hope that this matter will be reconsidered.

Jos. M. Cote,

President Branch No. 5

the F.A.L.C., Quebec.

I understand that the hon. Secretary of State (Mr. Rinfret) stated that another increase will be granted to these employees, over and above the 78 cents per week increase, and that this question is under consideration. In view of these facts I think that the employees of the Post Office Department at Quebec will 'be satisfied with the hon. minister's answer.

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CON

George Reginald Geary

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. G. R. GEARY (South Toronto):

Mr. Speaker, would the hon. Postmaster General state if he is ready to deal with the question I put to him yesterday, which he said he would read when Hansard oame before him and prepare an answer for to-day.

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LIB

Peter John Veniot (Postmaster General)

Liberal

Hon. P. J. VENIOT (Postmaster General):

That answer is being prepared on the basis of the memorandum that I have tabled. I will have it ready this afternoon or to-morrow.

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IMPERIAL CONFERENCE DEBATE

DENIAL OF NEWSPAPER STATEMENT IMPLYING ACCEPTANCE OF REPORT


On the Orders of the Day.


UFA

Edward Joseph Garland

United Farmers of Alberta

Mr. E. J. GARLAND (Bow River):

I desire to draw the attention of the Prime Minister to a report with respect to the debate on the Imperial conference which appeared

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Employment of Disabled Veterans

in the Manitoba Free. Press of Wednesday, April 6th. In that report the following declaration occurs:

Imperial conference policy is endorsed by a majority of 44.

As that statement is so far from the fact, I thought it advisable to call it to the attention of the Prime Minister in order that he may have an opportunity of denying it.

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LIB

William Lyon Mackenzie King (Prime Minister; President of the Privy Council; Secretary of State for External Affairs)

Liberal

Right Hon. W. L. MACKENZIE KING (Prime Minister):

Mr. Speaker, I think what my hon. friend has reference to is a newspaper heading. I am sure he will recognize that it is impossible for the government to control the press in the matter of the headings which it gives to its despatches. However, with reference to what the heading purports to assert, I would say to my hon. friend that I think the House understands that the motion the other day was a motion to go into supply, and the support given to it defeated the amendment- which was moved by my bon', friend the leader of the opposition (Mr. Guthrie). The amendment had reference to Imperial conference matters, but its defeat did not in any way imply the approval by this House df the report.

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EMPLOYMENT OF DISABLED VETERANS


On the Orders of the Day:


LIB

Peter John Veniot (Postmaster General)

Liberal

Hon. P. J. VENIOT (Postmaster General):

Mr. Speaker, yesterday I promised to give to the House a statement with respect to the employment of amputation cases in city post offices. The following is a memorandum of the conference held on Thursday, to which I then made reference:

Employment of Amputation Cases in City Post Offices

The above matter was discussed with representatives of the Civil Service Commission and a representative of the Great War Veterans' Association. The following were present:

P. T. Coolican, General Superintendent of Postal Service; E. J. Underwood, Chief Superintendent of Post Office Service; C. H. Bland, Assistant Secretary, Civil Service Commission; Mr. Bouchard, Examination Branch, Civil Service Commission; Mr. Herwig, Great War Veterans' Association.

The department's views were expressed as follows:

The department has no objection to the employment of amputation cases in those positions where their physical handicap does not prevent their giving the department satisfactory service.

The department at the present time has so many employees who are not 100 per cent physically fit in the operating branches of the service, including a large number of men of advanced years who have entered under the returned soldiers' preference, that to further load down these staffs with amputation cases

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would simply mean that the department could not give an efficient service.

It was pointed out at the interview that the department had no objection to the employment of amputation cases in such positions as mechanical operators in the Money Order branch, telephone operators, stenographers and other similar clerical positions.

It was further stated that the department would assist in every way possible in obtaining properly qualified amputation cases for such positions. This attitude was satisfactory to both the commission and Mr. Herwig of the Great War Veterans' Association and it was agreed that the department would, as far as possible, when suitable vacancies occurred, to which amputation cases could be assigned, to specially draw such cases to the attention of the Civil Service Commission when asking for vacancies to be filled.

I beg to lay the memorandum on the table.

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DEPARTMENT OF NATIONAL REVENUE

April 8, 1927