March 29, 1926

CON

Richard Smeaton White

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. WHITE (Mount Royal) (for Mr. Foster):

Far a capy af all correspondence, letters, telegrams, affidavits, reports, communications and documents of all kinds passing between the Electric Machinery Company, Limited, and the Honourable the Secretary of State or any officer of the Department of the Secretary of State or any other departments of the government or any officers of any other departments of the government between the 11th of November, 1919, and the present (time, regarding the incorporation of the Electric Machinery Company, Limited, and a change of name from the Electric Machinery Company, Limited, to the H. G. Stewart Machinery Company, Limited.

Topic:   QUESTIONS
Subtopic:   UNOPPOSED MOTIONS FOR PAPERS
Sub-subtopic:   ELECTRIC MACHINERY COMPANY
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CANADIAN GOVERNMENT MERCHANT MARINE -SALE OF SHIPS

CON

Alexandre Joseph Doucet

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. DOUCET:

Topic:   QUESTIONS
Subtopic:   CANADIAN GOVERNMENT MERCHANT MARINE -SALE OF SHIPS
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UNEMPLOYMENT RELIEF

CON

John Lawrence Stansell

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. STANSELL (for Mr. Church):

For a coipy of all correspondence, letters, telegrams, orders in council and all other data between the Government of Canada, the provinces and the municipalities regarding the question of unemployment and unemployment relief during the years 1925 and 1926.

Topic:   QUESTIONS
Subtopic:   UNEMPLOYMENT RELIEF
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POSTMISTRESS AT RIGAUD

CON

Alexandre Joseph Doucet

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. DOUCET:

For a copy of all correspondence exchanged between the Post Office Department and the Civil Service Commission and others, relative to the appointment of Mrs. Georges Seguin, as postmistress at Rigaud, Vaudreuil-Soulanges county, Quebec.

Topic:   QUESTIONS
Subtopic:   POSTMISTRESS AT RIGAUD
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POSTMASTER AT LITTLE CASCAPEDIA

CON

Alexandre Joseph Doucet

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. DOUCET:

For a copy of all correspondence, telegrams and other documents, reflating to the dismissal of Pierre Poirier from the postmastership of Little Cascapedia, Bonaventure county, Quebec, together with a copy of the evidence taken of the inquiry held and also the report of the investigator in such inquiry.

Topic:   QUESTIONS
Subtopic:   POSTMASTER AT LITTLE CASCAPEDIA
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EXPENSE ACCOUNT OF T. W. FULLER

CON

Ira Delbert Cotnam

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. COTNAM:

For a return showing a statement of the expense accounts of Mr. R. C. Wright, chief architect, and Mr. T. W. Fuller, assistant chief architect, Department of Public Works, for the fiscal years 1918-1919, 1919-1920, 1920-1921, 1921-1922, 1922-1923, 1923-1924

and 1924-1925.

Topic:   QUESTIONS
Subtopic:   EXPENSE ACCOUNT OF T. W. FULLER
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CONSTRUCTION OF LACHINE CANAL SUBWAY


On the motion of Mr. Guerin: For a copy of all correspondence, letters and telegrams between the Minister of Railways and Canals, the Minister of Public Works and the Minister of Marine and Fisheries or any officer of those departments and public bodies or private individuals of Montreal or other parts of Canada in connection with the construction of a subway under Lachine canal in St. Ann's division, city of Montreal.


LIB

Hewitt Bostock (Speaker of the Senate)

Liberal

Mr. SPEAKER:

I am informed that the mover of this motion would like to have it transferred to debatable motions; therefore, it will stand.

Motion stands.

Topic:   QUESTIONS
Subtopic:   CONSTRUCTION OF LACHINE CANAL SUBWAY
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CANADIAN GOVERNMENT MERCHANT MARINE

CON

Henry Alfred Mullins

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. H. A. MULLINS (Marquette) moved:

That, iin the opinion of this House, the Canadian Government Merchant Marine should withdraw at once from the North Atlantic Conference and should be operated independently of any association, conference or combine of steamship lines with the sole object of conferring the greatest possible advantage upon the Canadian producer.

He said: In the investigation before the

committee on Ocean Freight Rates, evidence was given to show that the Canadian Government Merchant Marine were in the combine, and were operating in the combine the same as other lines of steamships. I do not know whether the Canadian Government Merchant Marine is still in the combine and I would like the hon. Minister of Agriculture (Mr. Motherwell) to let us know, because he has stated in interviews on many occasions in western Canada that it was the intention of the government to obtain a reduction of freight rates on the ocean liners. So far nothing has been done. The rate remains at $20, which is too excessive altogether to promote one of the basic industries ol western Canada, the live stock industry.

The sale of the boats of the merchant marine leaves a doubt in the minds of the people out west as to whether we are going to get any redress in the matter of rates at the hands of this government. A private line has been established in the city of Toronto, called the Live Stock Producers' Line, which runs four boats which have been refitted for the cattle trade, and with excellent results. The people in the west are wondering why the boats of

Ocean Shipping Rates

Hon. CHARLES A. DUNNING (Minister of Railways and Canals): My contribution

to the resolution will be brief, and necessarily so. I waited with some interest to hear my hon. friend (Mr. Mullins) who introduced the resolution say something in support of it, and I am still waiting. I do not believe that the hon. gentleman mentioned the resolution at all. It reads:

That in the opinion of this House, the Canadian Government Merchant Marine should withdraw at once from the North Atlantic conference and should be operated independently of any association, conference or combine of steamship lines with the sole object of conferring the greatest possible advantage upon the Canadian producer.

The hon. member did not discuss this resolution at all. Perhaps he is aware now that [DOT] there is no point in it for the reason that it is more than one year late: the Canadian Government Merchant Marine withdrew from the conference in February, 1925. There is, therefore, no object whatever in pressing this resolution upon the House at this stage. I do not think I need say more.

Topic:   QUESTIONS
Subtopic:   CANADIAN GOVERNMENT MERCHANT MARINE
Sub-subtopic:   RATES ON LIVE STOCK SHIPPED TO GREAT BRITAIN
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CON

Arthur Meighen (Leader of the Official Opposition)

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. MEIGHEN:

May I ask the minister

a question? Do they not at the present time charge the same rates as the conference fixes?

Topic:   QUESTIONS
Subtopic:   CANADIAN GOVERNMENT MERCHANT MARINE
Sub-subtopic:   RATES ON LIVE STOCK SHIPPED TO GREAT BRITAIN
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LIB

Charles Avery Dunning (Minister of Railways and Canals)

Liberal

Mr. DUNNING:

So far as I am aware,

that has nothing to do with the resolution. I am not in a position to answer the question just now, but I should be glad to get the information for my hon. friend. The point of the resolution is whether the Canadian Government Merchant Marine is a member of the conference. The answer is it withdrew in February, 1925, and is not now associated with any body of steamship owners. As to rates, I shall be glad to get the information for my hon. friend.

Right Hon. ARTHUR MiEIGHEN (Leader of the Opposition): The new Minister of

Railways (Mr. Dunning) has summarily dismissed the resolution, and seems to assume that the House will be satisfied with his assurance that the Canadian Government Merchant Marine withdrew from the conference in February, 1925. The House, however, will put a question mark after the word "withdrew," having some doubt as to what its meaning is. The government has evidently a dictionary of its own and applies such meanings as may suit the occasion. It is true that in the debate of last year on the Petersen contract, and as well in the evidence given before the committee, assertions were then made that the Canadian merchant marine had formally withdrawn. Some of the evidence, however, went to show that while they had

(Mr. Mullins.]

formally withdrawn they still sat in, whatever may be the government's dictionary meaning of that term. They "sat in" while not being members and, I presume, not voting. They sat in and took such part as the sitter-in is entitled to, whatever that may be. But the more important fact, indeed, the only fact that is Pf any consequence at all, is the question of rates. If the rates are the rates dictated by the conference, it will not make any difference to the people of Canada whether they are members of the conference or sitters-in or sitters-out of it. If they follow the rates the conference fixes, then it is equally the same to the pocket of the shipper whether they are inside in the ring or outside in the vestibule. The minister comes into the House supposed to be in a position to discuss the resolution, and he does not know yet whether or not the merchant marine, which this government owns and which it is operating through a directorate, actually obeys the dictates of the conference. This is a matter of indifference to him so long as it formally asserts its nominal independence, or at least proclaims itself not a member in full standing, of the conference, paying the fees. Now,-

Topic:   QUESTIONS
Subtopic:   CANADIAN GOVERNMENT MERCHANT MARINE
Sub-subtopic:   RATES ON LIVE STOCK SHIPPED TO GREAT BRITAIN
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LIB

Charles Avery Dunning (Minister of Railways and Canals)

Liberal

Mr. DUNNING:

Will the right hon. gentleman permit me? I am in a position to state absolutely that the Canadian Government Merchant Marine does not obey the dictates of any conference. My hon. friend is attributing to me statements I did not make.

Topic:   QUESTIONS
Subtopic:   CANADIAN GOVERNMENT MERCHANT MARINE
Sub-subtopic:   RATES ON LIVE STOCK SHIPPED TO GREAT BRITAIN
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CON

Arthur Meighen (Leader of the Official Opposition)

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. MEIGHEN:

I attributed to the minister the effect of a statement he made before, which was that he did not know whether they followed the rates fixed by the conference or not.

Topic:   QUESTIONS
Subtopic:   CANADIAN GOVERNMENT MERCHANT MARINE
Sub-subtopic:   RATES ON LIVE STOCK SHIPPED TO GREAT BRITAIN
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March 29, 1926