March 19, 1926

CON

Henry Lumley Drayton

Conservative (1867-1942)

Sir HENRY DRAYTON:

Yes. Those

cocoas are comparatively cheap, much cheaper than the Trinidad cocoa. I understand that the cocoa question is a very live question for Trinidad, and that they have been asking for the specific concession which they have here. I have been advised by those in the manu-

Canada-West Indies Agreement

facturing business that they can use in their mix only a certain percentage of the Trinidad cocoa, and that no more Trinidad cocoa will be bought at all as a result of this preference, because this preference, although it is relatively good, would still leave the Trinidad cocoas considerably more expensive than the African cocoas, and the manufacturers would still have to have for the purpose of their mix the cheaper cocoas of Africa. That will mean additional taxation to the Canadian manufacturer on the raw material which he will still have to continue to import from Africa. I have no doubt the question has been brought to my hon. friend's attention. I am told that that will make a considerable difference; that it will make it impossible for manufacturers here to continue manufacturing the sweets which are sold in bars, the package sweets with a chocolate content; that they can be produced no longer for five cents, and that the effect will also be to raise the cost of manufacturing here. It is urged that some attention ought to be paid in the general tariff schedules to our production of confectionery of this kind. I just bring these points to the attention of my hon. friend. I do not ask him to deal with them to-night.

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LIB

James Alexander Robb (Minister of Trade and Commerce; Minister of Finance and Receiver General)

Liberal

Mr. ROBB:

I will have the points advanced by my hon. friend looked into. I admit with him at once the amount of preference that was given on the raw sugar, and I will confess to the House that we have sometimes wondered whether the government should not have given a little more attention to the urgent requests of the delegates from the British We^t Indies with regard to polarization in order to allow in some of their grades. Still I think we 'have used the sugar refiners of this country pretty well. They are doing fairly well, and-

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CON

Henry Lumley Drayton

Conservative (1867-1942)

Sir HENRY DRAYTON:

My hon. friend does not get my point.

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LIB

James Alexander Robb (Minister of Trade and Commerce; Minister of Finance and Receiver General)

Liberal

Mr. ROBB:

I know well what my hon.

friend has in mind.

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CON

Henry Lumley Drayton

Conservative (1867-1942)

Sir HENRY DRAYTON:

I am speaking of the producer, not of the sugar refiner.

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LIB

James Alexander Robb (Minister of Trade and Commerce; Minister of Finance and Receiver General)

Liberal

Mr. ROBB:

Allusion was made a few

moments ago to the increased importations of raw sugar. It is quite true. The importations of raw sugar during the last two years were greatly in excess of previous years, but exportations were also far in excess of previous years. I tried to get the figures, but as I recall them the sugar refiners of Canada have had their best year and have done their largest export business.

As regards the other point of my hon. friend in relation to cocoa, it is true that

representations have been made to us. The conditions are these: When the delegates from the West Indies were here they said: "If we are to give the people of Canada a preference in our markets for their products, is it not reasonable that they should only give a preference to those countries that give them a preference?" They said that the west coast of Africa gave no preference to Canada, and they cannot do so for a certain period of years because of an agreement entered into with, I think, France. We thought that was fairly good reasoning; at least that was my opinion. Sometimes I agree with my right hon. friend the leader of the opposition and in considering that matter on the 2nd of June last-he will recall that we had this conference on that date-I heard the right hon. gentleman use these words:

I do not see any roason wliy wc suoulu conlniue to give preference to anybody unless we get preference in

return My principle is, give advantage for

advantage, but do not give it without.

Well, that is the policy that we followed in taking away the concessions from the west coast of Africa, which does not give us any preference. We do give a preference to Trinidad, which buys our butter, our cheese, our condensed milk, our fish, and whatever products we have to sell.

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LIB

William Duff (Deputy Speaker and Chair of Committees of the Whole of the House of Commons)

Liberal

The CHAIRMAN:

Shall the resolution

carry?

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CON

Arthur Meighen (Leader of the Official Opposition)

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. MEIGHEN:

The government does

not expect to get the resolution through tonight?

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LIB

James Alexander Robb (Minister of Trade and Commerce; Minister of Finance and Receiver General)

Liberal

Mr. ROBB:

I will not press that, but I should like to have introduced the bill.

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CON

Arthur Meighen (Leader of the Official Opposition)

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. MEIGHEN:

If the resolution goes

through the committee it is through; that is ail there is to it.

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LIB

James Alexander Robb (Minister of Trade and Commerce; Minister of Finance and Receiver General)

Liberal

Mr. ROBB:

I will table the bill. I will not press the matter if my right hon. friend objects. -

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CON

Arthur Meighen (Leader of the Official Opposition)

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. MEIGHEN:

WTe do not want the resolution to go through in detail until we understand all about it.

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LIB

James Alexander Robb (Minister of Trade and Commerce; Minister of Finance and Receiver General)

Liberal

Mr. ROBB:

Very well, I will move that the committee rise and report progress.

Progress reported.

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ADJOURNMENT-BUSINESS OF THE HOUSE


Mr. MACKENZIE KING moved the adjournment of the House.


CON

Arthur Meighen (Leader of the Official Opposition)

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. MEIGHEN:

Has the government any information as to what private business will be taken up on Monday?

175S

Privilege-Mr. Pouliot

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LIB

William Lyon Mackenzie King (Prime Minister; President of the Privy Council; Secretary of State for External Affairs)

Liberal

Mr. MACKENZIE KING:

I have been informed by the hon. member for Winnipeg North Centre (Mr. Woodsworth) that he will be prepared to go on with his resolution.

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CON

Arthur Meighen (Leader of the Official Opposition)

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. MEIGHEN:

He has two.

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LIB

William Lyon Mackenzie King (Prime Minister; President of the Privy Council; Secretary of State for External Affairs)

Liberal

Mr. MACKENZIE KING:

The first one that appears under Notices of Motion.

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CON

Arthur Meighen (Leader of the Official Opposition)

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. MEIGHEN:

That is the very first

one? .

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March 19, 1926