March 16, 1926

LIB

Georges Henri Boivin (Minister of Customs and Excise)

Liberal

Mr. BOIVIN:

The number of seizures of

liquor smuggled in from the ocean to the Maritime provinces during the open season last year was about forty. There should have been a great many more.

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LAB

Abraham Albert Heaps

Labour

Mr. HEAPS:

There is one question I would like to ask the minister. If I understand these estimates correctly, in the two columns it just shows the estimates for the fiscal year. Is it not possible to have another column showing the amounts spent during the last fiscal year?

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LIB

Georges Henri Boivin (Minister of Customs and Excise)

Liberal

Mr. BOIVIN:

In making up the estimates we have followed the usual custom, and the amount expended during the last fiscal year has never appeared. My hon. friend will find, however, that the expenditures detailed in the Auditor General's report correspond exactly with the votes in the estimates for the previous year. He can find in the Auditor General's report under the same number a description of the expenditures made under eadh item voted last year.

.Sir HENRY DRAYTON: No, the year

before.

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LIB

Georges Henri Boivin (Minister of Customs and Excise)

Liberal

Mr. BOIVIN:

Yes, the year before. There is always an intervening calendar year.

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CON

Henry Lumley Drayton

Conservative (1867-1942)

Sir HENRY DRAYTON:

My hon. friend is nearly right; he is only out a year this time.

Supply-Public Works

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LIB

Georges Henri Boivin (Minister of Customs and Excise)

Liberal

Mr. BOIVIN:

It is only a slip of the

tongue.

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CON

Henry Lumley Drayton

Conservative (1867-1942)

Sir HENRY DRAYTON:

My hon. friend 'has made the same slip several times before. A person trying to follow the books would be hopelessly lost if he followed my hon. friend's directions. I wonder if the minister, in the course of his investigation, found out the number of ports to be looked after, the ports of export in the neighbourhood of lake St. Clair and the St. Clair river-Detroit, Windsor and so on?

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LIB

Georges Henri Boivin (Minister of Customs and Excise)

Liberal

Mr. BOIVIN:

I have not. That would

come not under this item, but the next one. W'hat I am willing to offer my hon. friend is this: I will get a complete list of these ports which should be watched by preventive officers, and I will not ask to go any further to-night. After we have passed this item of $376,510, we shall let the remainder stand for further discussion. I will have the list of outports to-morrow.

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CON

Henry Lumley Drayton

Conservative (1867-1942)

Sir HENRY DRAYTON:

I take it the

suggestion is that we stop business now?

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LIB

Georges Henri Boivin (Minister of Customs and Excise)

Liberal

Mr. BOIVIN:

No, just pass this item and

then take up another department.

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CON

Henry Lumley Drayton

Conservative (1867-1942)

Sir HENRY DRAYTON:

I see no reason

why we should drop this and go to something else. We allowed the government to take up estimates to-day without a motion, and I see no reason why the government should now call some other estimates, just for the purpose of obviating a motion. That can be the only reason.

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LIB

Ernest Lapointe (Minister of Justice and Attorney General of Canada)

Liberal

Mr. LAPOINTE:

No. If my hon. friend

will permit me, we desire to have at least one other department go on with its estimates Thursday and Friday. It may be necessary to ask the Minister of Customs to be in the House all day Friday and even Thursday, and it would hardly be fair to start other estimates on those days. If my hon. friend will allow the Public Works estimates to get down tonight so that my colleague the Minister of Public Works will be able to go on with his estimates the latter part of this week if necessary, I think everything will be all right.

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CON

Henry Lumley Drayton

Conservative (1867-1942)

Sir HENRY DRAYTON:

Frankly, I do

not remember any particular reference by the government as to what t/hey intended to take up. I am perfectly content, however.

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LIB

Ernest Lapointe (Minister of Justice and Attorney General of Canada)

Liberal

Mr. LAPOINTE:

Yes, we mentioned

Customs and Public Works.

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CON

Robert James Manion

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. MANION:

I do not wish to doubt

the minister's word, but I certainly was in the House and I do not remember the Prime Minister mentioning Public Works.

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LIB

Ernest Lapointe (Minister of Justice and Attorney General of Canada)

Liberal

Mr. LAPOINTE:

Yes. It is in Hansard. The Prime Minister said1:

To-morrow is government day. We purpose taking such motions as may be on the order paper and then to proceed with supply. We will take up first the estimates of the Department of Customs, and if we do not occupy the entire day with those estimates, we will take up the Department of Public Works.

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CON

Henry Lumley Drayton

Conservative (1867-1942)

Sir HENRY DRAYTON:

Then under

those circumstances I have no right, of course, to object, but if we do that I would suggest that we rise now. We have done pretty well, and these two items are so closely connected one with the other that I think we should now rise, report progress and then call an item in Public Works to accommodate my hon. friend.

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LIB

Ernest Lapointe (Minister of Justice and Attorney General of Canada)

Liberal

Mr. LAPOINTE:

The consideration of this item will be suspended, that is all.

Item stands.

Public Works-public buildings-Nova Scotia :

Halifax-Bellevue building-improvements

and repairs $ 4,000

Halifax Immigration building-payments to Department of Railways and Canals for

accommodation 25,000

Halifax Quarantine station-repairs and improvements 5,000

Halifax Rockhead hospital-repairs and improvements 2,250

North Sydney-Quarantine station-alterations

and repairs 2,350

Pictou-public building-addition and repairs. 9,000

Stellarton-public building 10,000

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CON

Henry Lumley Drayton

Conservative (1867-1942)

Sir HENRY DRAYTON:

I have now a suggestion to make to my hon. friend. I do not think this is a very serious item, so I think we could pass it now, and adjourn. That would probably save time.

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Item agreed to. Progress reported.


March 16, 1926