January 25, 1926

CON

Robert James Manion

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. MANION:

Not a bit; I am not mad

but just emphatic. And I shall be more emphatic still before I am through. My r>ght hon. leader (Mr. Meighen) on his passage through the west outlined in his speeches the policy which he would put into force in the event of his being returned to power. He said that if he got into power he would bring in a policy which would utilize the great deposits of Canadian ..coal.

Some hon. MI?MBERS: Oh, oh.

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CON

Robert James Manion

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. MANION:

My hon. friends laugh.

But what was the attitude of their leader when he stood on the platform in the city of Fort William? What did he tell the people there? He said that if the Right Hon. Mr. Meighen got into power it would only mean an increase in the price of coal in Canada and he advocated leaving the coal question alone. That is the attitude he took; he objected to

any Canadian policy to bring Canadian coal to the consumer in this country. Here we have to-day a government with a Prime Minister who has no seat in the House; and we have no Minister of Railways, no Minister of Trade and Commerce, no Minister of Labour and no Minister of Immigration. All the gentlemen bolding these portfolios were defeated and that is why we have a government that is unable to bring forward a policy of any kind on any question that calls for *action. .

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PRO

Edward Joseph Garland

Progressive

Mr. GARLAND (Bow River):

Does the

hon. member advocate a duty on coal and if so what rate of duty?

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CON

Robert James Manion

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. MANION:

I am not going to outline any policy this afternoon but I will tell the bon. member 'this. If he had stood by the principles of democracy which he preaches so very much he would have voted for the largest group in the House, the group that had1 received the largest number of votes from the people by some 200,000 and he would have put into power a government that would have been courageous enough to bring down a real policy.

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PRO

Edward Joseph Garland

Progressive

Mr. GARLAND (Bow River):

I simply

asked the question for information. What was the policy advocated by my hon. friend's leader?

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CON

Robert James Manion

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. MANION:

The leader of the opposition will explain his own policy.

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Some hon. MEMBERS:

Oh, oh.

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CON

Robert James Manion

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. MANION:

Hon. gentlemen opposite

may see fit to laugh, and that has been their *whole attitude during the past three years wherever the interests of the Nova Scotia miners have been concerned. The miners who with their families are starving down there have the satisfaction of knowing that whenever their affairs are discussed in this House hon. members laugh. They get nothing more than a laugh at any time.

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CON
PRO
CON

Robert James Manion

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. MANION:

I was not referring to the Progressives at all; I was speaking of the government so-called.

Mr. STEWART (West Edmonton)I do not wish to enter into a controversy with my hon. friend but I think he ought to retract that statement that the government has ever laughed at the sufferings of anyone.

Nova Scotia Miners

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CON

Robert James Manion

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. MANION:

There is nothing that I

need retract. I made the statement that the miners of Nova Scotia have never got anything more than laughter when their condition has been discussed. Certainly they got no relief.

Mr. 'STEWART (West Edmonton): It is of course my hon. friend's privilege to press his point but I must take issue with him.

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CON

Robert James Manion

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. MANION:

Will the minister tell us

what the government has done to relieve the miners.

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LIB

Charles A. Stewart (Minister of Immigration and Colonization; Minister of Mines; Minister of the Interior; Superintendent-General of Indian Affairs)

Liberal

Mr. STEWART (West Edmonton):

Mr. Speaker, I am not discussing that. I am asking my hon. friend to retract his statement that this government has laughed at the distress of the miners.

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CON

Robert James Manion

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. MANION:

I have stated that and I will repeat my statement: All the miners received was a laugh. There has been nothing done for the miners of Nova Scotia by this government, and they make no proposal now to do anything. They return with the same old cry and begin saying that the municipality has the first responsibility, and the province the second responsibility. They take this same old attitude of passing the buck instead of coming forward with some sort of policy in order to attempt to relieve conditions which exist in this country. How can you expect anything else, when we are in the humiliating position of having a prime minister-so-called-in this country to-day, and instead of occupying a seat in this House-

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Edward Mortimer Macdonald (Minister of National Defence)

Liberal

Mr. MACDONALD (Antigonish-Guysbor-ough):

He will be here next week.

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CON

Robert James Manion

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. MANION:

Perhaps he will. We have him going round the country hunting for a seat. He cannot even get a seat in the province of his birth, but must leave that great province and go away out west.

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LIB

Charles A. Stewart (Minister of Immigration and Colonization; Minister of Mines; Minister of the Interior; Superintendent-General of Indian Affairs)

Liberal

Mr. STEWART (West Edmonton):

My hon. friend seems to be speaking with some heat. He does not ordinarily get so heated But he will admit that other prime ministers have done the same thing.

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CON

Robert James Manion

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. MANION:

But we have never before had the spectacle of a prime minister leading a government occupying the floor of this House, and himself without a seat. Not only himself, but with nine ministers beaten, every minister who ran in this great province of Ontario wiped out; every minister whom I mentioned defeated, the portfolios vacant at the present time or filled temporarily by some other minister. That is the state of affairs, and as a result not only is the coal business

of this country unstable but every other business and industry in Canada is unstablp. What we need in this country is, first, a government ; second, a government with a head; and third, a government with courage enough to bring forward some sort of policy which will settle this perennial question.

This government has had four years in which to settle this question; it has come up every year in this House, and I repeat that they have done nothing. The only thing they have done is to pass the buck. It is time for the government to resign; it is time for the government to recognize the democratic principle that the majority of the people should rule. Let us have a government which will have the courage to at least bring forward a policy and stand by it.

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January 25, 1926