June 26, 1925

CON

George Black

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. BLACK (Yukon):

In regard to the

item of $10,000 granted to the local council to cover expenditures on replacements of public works destroyed by the flood, does the minister think that is at all an adequate appropriation? I understand his agent in the territory wired very urgently requesting that $50,000 be granted.

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LIB

Charles A. Stewart (Minister of Mines; Minister of the Interior; Superintendent-General of Indian Affairs)

Liberal

Mr. STEWART (Argenteuil) :

I did anticipate that the amount would be over $10,000, but I did not want to provide a very large item. I have some recent photographs that would indicate that there has been very considerable damage up there.

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CON

George Black

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. BLACK (Yukon):

I have a copy of

the telegram from the gold commissioner to the director of the Yukon branch in Ottawa, stating that they require some $50,000. The telegram is very explicit and very urgent.

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LIB

Charles A. Stewart (Minister of Mines; Minister of the Interior; Superintendent-General of Indian Affairs)

Liberal

Mr. STEWART (Argenteuil):

That telegram came in May, just at the time of the flood, but we have had no definite estimate of what the amount of damage would be.

Supply-Interior

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LIB

Charles A. Stewart (Minister of Mines; Minister of the Interior; Superintendent-General of Indian Affairs)

Liberal

Mr. STEWART (Argenteuil):

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LIB

Charles A. Stewart (Minister of Mines; Minister of the Interior; Superintendent-General of Indian Affairs)

Liberal

Mr. STEWART (Argenteuil):

Yes, I think that is correct. We are to a certain extent responsible, having told them that undoubtedly they would be in receipt of this money.

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CON

George Black

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. BLACK (Yukon):

Would the minister give the committee some information concerning an item in the public accounts appearing under the head of cost of administration, Yukon Territory, $100,000, Exchequer Court award for the Bonanza Creek Gold Mining Company?

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LIB

Charles A. Stewart (Minister of Mines; Minister of the Interior; Superintendent-General of Indian Affairs)

Liberal

Mr. STEWART (Argenteuil):

I am sorry I have not that information, but I shall be glad to get it for my hon. friend. It was the result of some award by the court, -but I have forgotten the circumstances.

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George Black

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. BLACK (Yukon):

settlement is fraudulent, and now the item appears in the public accounts as part of the expenditure for administrating the Yukon territory. If the government consented to give away $100,000 to these people who filed this claim for $17,000,000, I say that it should have been charged up under some other heading than the administration of Yukon.

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LIB

Charles A. Stewart (Minister of Mines; Minister of the Interior; Superintendent-General of Indian Affairs)

Liberal

Mr. STEWART (Argenteuil):

So far as

I am concerned I do not know anything about this claim. It has certainly never come before the Department of the Interior. My hon. friend states it was in the Exchequer court. I have no recollection of the claim at all. I have a recollection of hearing a claim of this character which had been very long delayed being discussed, but I really am unable to give my hon. friend any information about the matter.

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Arthur Meighen (Leader of the Official Opposition)

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. MEIGHEN:

Can the Minister of

Justice do it?

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Ernest Lapointe (Minister of Justice and Attorney General of Canada)

Liberal

Mr. LAPOINTE:

I have no recollection

of anything of this kind. It must have been before I took charge of the department. However, I am willing to make a search for it.

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George Black

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. BLACK (Yukon):

It is not very

ancient. The judgment was entered and the money paid after the 1st March, 1924, so it is not much over a year old. I am inclined to think the minister is altogether correct when he says he does not know anything about it, for I could not conceive of him paying this claim if he knew anything about it at all, although the claim does arise entirely out of the administration of the Department of the Interior. What surprises me is that the claim was paid without the minister knowing anything about it. Somebody on behalf of the government must know something about it, and I would like to know the people to whom the money was paid, and why they were paid when they had no claim at all.

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LIB

Charles A. Stewart (Minister of Mines; Minister of the Interior; Superintendent-General of Indian Affairs)

Liberal

Mr. STEWART (Argenteuil):

I certainly

will look into the matter. Matters that get into the court for court decision, of course, get out of the hands of the minister except the Minister of Justice. The case is out of the control of the other ministers when it reaches that stage. My hon. friend informs me that the matter has been lying dormant in the Exchequer court for a number of years, and therefore it would not come through the Department of the Interior. However, I shall be very glad to get the information and give it to my hon. friend.

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Arthur Meighen (Leader of the Official Opposition)

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. MEIGHEN:

Was the minister made

aware of the settlement of this claim at all?

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LIB

Charles A. Stewart (Minister of Mines; Minister of the Interior; Superintendent-General of Indian Affairs)

Liberal

Mr. STEWART (Argenteuil):

My accountant tells me that the payment came through the Department of the Interior, that the judgment was issued, and paid apparently in the ordinary way.

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LIB

Charles A. Stewart (Minister of Mines; Minister of the Interior; Superintendent-General of Indian Affairs)

Liberal

Mr. STEWART (Argenteuil):

In March,

1924.

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June 26, 1925