June 20, 1925

PRIVATE BILLS FIRST AND SECOND READINGS


Bill No. 228, from the Senate, for the relief of Lucy Eileen Johnston.-Mr. Church. Bill No. 229, from the Senate, for the relief of Susan Ellen Tauton Love.-Mr. Jacobs. Bill No. 230, from the Senate, for the relief of Caroline Watters.-Mr. Maclean (York). Bill No. 231, from the Senate, for the relief of Grace Wilhelmina Harrison.-Mr. Church. Bill No. 232, from the Senate, for the relief of Ethel Foster.-Mr. Sheard.


PULPWOOD CONCESSIONS IN NORTHERN MANITOBA


On the Orders of the Day.


CON

Arthur Meighen (Leader of the Official Opposition)

Conservative (1867-1942)

Right Hon. ARTHUR MEIGHEN (Leader of the Opposition):

I wish to call the attention of the government, and the Minister of the Interior in particular, to a telegram-indeed more than one telegram- which I have received from Winnipeg protesting against certain concessions, or rather the promise of a concession, said to have been made in respect of certain pulpwood areas in northern Manitoba, especially to those features providing only for pulpwood manufacture on a small scale rather than paper manufacture-to both the smallness of the scale and the fact that only partial manufacture is to be made of the raw material- as inadequate compensation for the very large concessions given. I would ask the Minister if he would make any statement that he can on the subject, and also if he would lay on the table of the House the agreements or order in council, or both, whichever may exist.

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LIB

Charles A. Stewart (Minister of Mines; Minister of the Interior; Superintendent-General of Indian Affairs)

Liberal

Hon. CHARLES STEWART (Minister of the Interior):

I notice 'by press despatches that there has been considerable agitation about a concession granted to the Manitoba Pulp and Paper Company in Winnipeg, due largely, I think, to the fact that there is not a definite provision for the location of the mill in the city of Winnipeg. However, in reply to the question of my right hon. friend I would say

Pulpwood Concessions

that there is definite provision in the contract for the manufacture of both pulp and paper.

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CON

Arthur Meighen (Leader of the Official Opposition)

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. MEIGHEN:

How much?

Mr. STEWART (Argenteuil) Fifty per cent of the product of the mill is to be manufactured into paper, and none of the pulp can be exported from Canada without the consent of the minister, so that there is definite provision for the manufacture of paper and the construction of a paper plant in connection with the pulp plant.

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CON

Arthur Meighen (Leader of the Official Opposition)

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. MEIGHEN:

What is the extent of the plant?

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LIB

Charles A. Stewart (Minister of Mines; Minister of the Interior; Superintendent-General of Indian Affairs)

Liberal

Mr. STEWART (Argenteuil):

At present one hundred tons per day, but it can be extended to a two hundred ton plant which I am given to understand' is the economic unit. That is the definite provision. My information is that the city of Winnipeg are very anxious to secure this plant. But the difficulty in Winnipeg is the water supply, They require a very large supply of pure water which would have to be filtered, if taken from the river proper, or obtained from the greater Winnipeg water supply, whereas if the company located on lake Winnipeg or on the English river they would have these advantages besides being somewhat closer to their source of power. The project is to be undertaken with power developed by the Manitoba Power Company at its inception, and from a development of power later on. I submitted the agreement and order in council on the matter to the provincial government. The mayor and council-I would not sty the council but the mayor at all events-of the city of 'Winnipeg consulted with the members representing the district, and the features of the contract, I think, protect ev.-.ry one thoroughly. We have a deposit of $250,000 as a guarantee that the mill will be started, but no cutting will be permitted until $1,000,000 has been expended upon the mill itself. In addition, there is a perpetual bond of $175,000 for the faithful performance of the contract. The citizens of Winnipeg, and of Manitoba generally, have been extremely anxious for a long time to have this industry established, and it is in compliance with that request that the agreement was entered into with the Manitoba Pulp and Paper Company for_ the carrying out of the project. The territory available in Manitoba will warrant the construction of two mills, so far as we know at the present time, of two hundred ton capacity each. That is according to the information that we have from our Forestry department. The whole agreement and contract have been

fully scrutinized and will be found, I think, eminently satisfactory. I shall be very glai to lay the order in council and the contract upon the table of the House on Monday.

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CON

Arthur Meighen (Leader of the Official Opposition)

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. MEIGHEN:

That is, the orders-incouncil-there will be more than one, I anticipate-reciting the area of the concessions in respect of which the contract was made?

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LIB

Charles A. Stewart (Minister of Mines; Minister of the Interior; Superintendent-General of Indian Affairs)

Liberal

Mr. STEWART (Argenteuil):

I would be very glad to lay the information on the table.

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CON

Arthur Meighen (Leader of the Official Opposition)

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. MEIGHEN:

On Monday?

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LIB

Charles A. Stewart (Minister of Mines; Minister of the Interior; Superintendent-General of Indian Affairs)

Liberal

Mr. STEWART (Argenteuil):

Yes.

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GERMAN SECURITY PACT


On the Orders of the Day:


CON

Arthur Meighen (Leader of the Official Opposition)

Conservative (1867-1942)

Right Hon. ARTHUR MEIGHEN (Leader of the Opposition):

I should like also to refer to a question asked some two days ago, or three, relating to the reported or pending agreement as to defence as between France, Germany and Great Britain, and to ask the government if they would lay on the Table this session-on Monday if possible-the correspondence relating thereto. I hope that a too jealous care will not be taken to extend the confidentiality of the correspondence in order to prevent its 'being kid on the table because if so we shall know practically nothing about it for many months to come.

Hon. GEORGE P. GRAHAM (Minister of Railways and Canals): I do not know if there is any correspondence, although there may be. There is no objection to laying it on the table if it be not considered confidential. From what my right hon. friend says he knows what that, means.

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MINERS AND STEEL WORKERS


On the Orders of the Day:


LAB

James Shaver Woodsworth

Labour

Mr. J. S. WOODSWORTH (Centre Winnipeg) :

Will the government give us information as to the situation in Cape Breton? I trust -that parliament will not be asked to prorogue without this matter being settled, as there are now large bodies of troops in that pant of Canada.

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LIB

George Perry Graham (Minister of Railways and Canals)

Liberal

Mr. GRAHAM:

That question had better be asked again when the Prime Minister is in his seat.

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June 20, 1925