June 19, 1925

PRO

John Millar

Progressive

Mr. MILLAR:

Most ocean going vessels

are loaded and unloaded at Vancouver. If one of these ships went past Esquimalt with a cargo and she required repairs, would it be necessary for her to go to Vancouver and unload, return to this place and be repaired, and then go back to Vancouver and load again?

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John Warwick King

Progressive

Mr. KING (Kootenay):

That would be

a matter for the steamship company to decide. There will be two docks, one at Esquimalt and one at Vancouver, in competition with each other. We do not operate the docks. Yarrows and another shipbuilding! firm at Esquimalt will use .the government dock, paying tolls to the department, and they will be in competition with the firms at Vancouver for the business.

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John Millar

Progressive

Mr. MILLAR:

I was referring to the

larger ships which could not be accommodated at Vancouver.

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John Warwick King

Progressive

Mr. KING (Kootenay):

I believe the

Vancouver dock will accommodate any ship in the merchant service. I do not doubt that ships of the Canadian Pacific company could make use of it.

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John Wilfred Kennedy

Progressive

Mr. KENNEDY (Glengarry and Stormont) :

Is it expected that the tolls charged

will pay interest on the investment?

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John Warwick King

Progressive

Mr. KING (Kootenay):

Last year we collected at Esquimalt $28,248 while the expenditures amounted to $22,000.

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PRO

George Gibson Coote

Progressive

Mr. COOTE:

Is the drydock at Prince

Rupert under the Public Works department?

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PRO

John Warwick King

Progressive

Mr. KING (Kootenay):

No. It was

built under subsidy by the Grand Trunk Pacific Railway Company and when the railways were consolidated it came under the control of the Canadian National Railways.

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Item agreed to. Port Arthur and Fort William-harbour improvements, $129,000.


PRO
PRO

John Warwick King

Progressive

Mr. KING (Kootenay):

This is to complete a contract entered into two years ago.

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Item agreed to. Quebec harbour-Champlain dock-to complete, $68,000.


CON

Henry Lumley Drayton

Conservative (1867-1942)

Sir HENRY DRAYTON:

Why is this work not done by the harbour commission?

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PRO

John Warwick King

Progressive

Mr. KING (Kootenay):

This dock was

built by the department in 1913, and the vote has been carried from time to time to complete certain works that were not finished.

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CON

Henry Lumley Drayton

Conservative (1867-1942)

Sir HENRY DRAYTON:

Is it charged

to the harbour commissioners?

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PRO
PRO

Arthur John Lewis

Progressive

Mr. LEWIS:

How much are we spending on this institution? We have $60,000 in one place, $5,000,000 in another part of the estimates, and other votes elsewhere. Why not put all these sums under one item?

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John Warwick King

Progressive

Mr. KING (Kootenay):

This dock has

nothing to do with the harbour commission; it is on the opposite side at Levis.

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Arthur John Lewis

Progressive

Mr. LEWIS:

I notice that the hon. member (Mr. Sutherland) has made the statement that money is being spent everywhere indiscriminately. I want to tell him that no reckless expenditures are being made in the three prairie provinces.

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PRO

George Gibson Coote

Progressive

Mr. COOTE:

I want to refer to the vote

for Fort William which was carried so precipitately a moment ago. I think the hon. member representing that part of the country (Mr. Manion) made the statement that he was agreeable to withdrawing that vote.

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June 19, 1925