June 12, 1925

LIB

Henri Sévérin Béland (Minister of Soldiers' Civil Re-establishment; Minister presiding over the Department of Health)

Liberal

Mr. BELAND:

The largest amount of the operating expense item is used to provide advances for treatment of imperial pensioners and allied country pensioners who are in Canada, we being the agent of the governments concerned. A large amount of this money that is provided is being reimbursed to the department. The other portion is used generally for:

Telephone, telegrams, postage and car fare.

Transportation and travelling of staff.

Stationery and office supplies.

Insurance and storage.

Light, heat, power and water rates.

Maintenance and repairs to furniture and equipment.

Freight and express.

Royal Commission on Pensions and Re-Establishment.

Other general expenses.

Working capital.

Financing treatment and medical examination of imperial and foreign former soldiers; also miscellaneous expense of Imperial pension office.

All of this is refunded, but it is refunded month by month, and we are generally a large amount behind. We have to provide the money. The main sum in this connection is spent on behalf of Imperial government.

Item 286 agreed to.

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CON
LIB

Henri Sévérin Béland (Minister of Soldiers' Civil Re-establishment; Minister presiding over the Department of Health)

Liberal

Mr. BELAND:

The hon. member wants

to reserve the Federal appeal board item?

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CON
LIB

Henri Sévérin Béland (Minister of Soldiers' Civil Re-establishment; Minister presiding over the Department of Health)

Liberal

Mr. BELAND:

Item 292 stands and 293 is carried. Now we can proceed with the other estimates. There is nothing contentious about them.

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CON

Robert James Manion

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. MANION:

We agreed we would stop after having passed these estimates; if there is nothing contentious about them the minister will not have any trouble in getting them through later.

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LIB

Henri Sévérin Béland (Minister of Soldiers' Civil Re-establishment; Minister presiding over the Department of Health)

Liberal

Mr. BELAND:

I am afraid they will come up late in the session, and you will not have the same opportunity that you would have to-night. I know that the hon. member for Kingston (Mr. Ross) wants to ask a few questions regarding quarantine.

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CON

Robert James Manion

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. MANION:

If the minister is so interested in getting this item through, I think we will have to go back and discuss some of the items we have carried.

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PRO

John Livingstone Brown

Progressive

Mr. BROWN:

While the minister is satisfied, the rest of us would like to proceed with some of the business of the House, if that is possible.

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CON

Robert James Manion

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. MANION:

The hon. member for Lis-gar might have said that before we made the arrangement.

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John Livingstone Brown

Progressive

Mr. BROWN:

The arrangement was to go on with the Health estimates. It was the Health estimates I was interested in.

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CON

Robert James Manion

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. MANION:

The minister may take up any item he likes, but he will not get any of them through.

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LIB

Henri Sévérin Béland (Minister of Soldiers' Civil Re-establishment; Minister presiding over the Department of Health)

Liberal

Mr. BELAND:

I do not think my hon. friend means that. He enjoys a good reputation in the House and he must not destroy it.

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Robert James Manion

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. MANION:

I am not afraid of that. I think my hon. friend is not fair. We made the arrangement and now he comes forward with a proposition to pass the Health estimates. That matter was not discussed.

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Henri Sévérin Béland (Minister of Soldiers' Civil Re-establishment; Minister presiding over the Department of Health)

Liberal

Mr. BELAND:

Oh yes.

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LIB

Henri Sévérin Béland (Minister of Soldiers' Civil Re-establishment; Minister presiding over the Department of Health)

Liberal

Mr. BELAND:

I said I would be perfectly willing to reserve one or two items, take the Health items which remain to be adopted and adopt them this evening after proper discussion, and I pointed out in this connection that the Health estimates have already been under consideration quite a long time in the House, and a tremendous amount of information has been supplied to the committee and properly so. The remaining Health department items are not nearly as important as those we have adopted. The only three items left include one very small amount, the quarantine item which we discussed very extensively the other day, but regarding which seme information could still be supplied, and the other one is venereal diseases, which is a grant.

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William James Lewis

Mr. LEWTS:

We have been getting along very nicely, and rather than disturb the House at this time, I think the minister would be well advised, if the arrangement was entered into, to let the. House adjourn at eleven o'clock. We have put through estimates totalling nearly $8,000,000 to-night, and although I would like to see the Health estimates get through to-night, there is one item, venereal diseases, that might involve a general discussion.

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Harold Putnam

Liberal

Mr. PUTNAM:

Did the hon. gentleman

say "if an arrangement was entered into"?

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Arthur John Lewis

Progressive

Mr. LEWIS:

A few moments ago we allowed about five items to go through without discussion. Possibly that may have been the general understanding, and while that may have been a misunderstanding, it seems to have been the understanding of the hon.

Business oj the House

member for Fort William and Rainy River (Mr. Manion).

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June 12, 1925