June 11, 1925

CON

Arthur Edward Ross

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. ROSS (Kingston):

Are the booking

agents government officials?

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LIB

James Alexander Robb (Minister of Immigration and Colonization)

Liberal

Mr. ROBB:

No, the booking agent might

be the railway agent or the steamship agent that sold the tickets.

Supply-Immigration

Mr.. SPENCER: I should like to get from the minister the statement that our problem is more of a colonization problem than one of immigration.

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LIB
PRO

Henry Elvins Spencer

Progressive

Mr. SPENCER:

Particularly if we have

50,000 to 60,000 unemployed in Canada, and I for one refuse to believe that there is any more than a very small percentage of them unemployable. Many have gone off the farm. I have been approached by many of them who are very good farm hands, who have worked on farms for years-family men-but their work is quite uncertain for the entire year, and they have often approached me to see if there was any possible way they could be helped to farm by themselves. Here families are being brought over and started through direct or indirect government aid, they have been very anxious to know if something could not be done for them. These men are altogether better equipped for going farming than those who are being brought here; but on account of their family,-from three to eight of a family in some cases-the work that they have on a farm is very uncertain, and their usual action is to leave the country and go into the towns. I should like to ask the minister if something could not be done for that class of settler who would, if we could keep him, make a very excellent farmer, because they know how to farm, and they have been hired on farms for a good many years?

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LIB

James Alexander Robb (Minister of Immigration and Colonization)

Liberal

Mr. ROBB:

If my hon. friend means a

system of government advances, I say no.

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PRO

Henry Elvins Spencer

Progressive

Mr. SPENCER:

Possibly a sympathetic system of rural credits might help.

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CON

Hugh Alexander Stewart

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. STEWART (Leeds):

Could the minister give the names of any societies or associations who may be carrying on with a view of earning grants to be made pursuant to order in council?

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LIB

James Alexander Robb (Minister of Immigration and Colonization)

Liberal

Mr. ROBB:

I have already put that on

record.

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PRO
LIB

James Alexander Robb (Minister of Immigration and Colonization)

Liberal

Mr. ROBB:

Both the Salvation Army and the Scottish Society have been doing good work. The Salvation Army gives after-care for four years to those whom it brings in, and if they are not satisfactory it takes them elsewhere without expense to the country.

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CON

John Arthur Clark

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. CLARK:

Is it contemplated to grant moneys to any other society by order in council? .

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LIB

James Alexander Robb (Minister of Immigration and Colonization)

Liberal

Mr. ROBB:

I have nothing in mind.

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CON

John Arthur Clark

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. CLARK:

Why make it necessary to have orders in council for granting moneys to these societies? Why not have these amounts in the estimates so that it would be obvious to whom the money was given?

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LIB

James Alexander Robb (Minister of Immigration and Colonization)

Liberal

Mr. ROBB:

We are simply following the procedure that has been pursued for the last twenty-five or thirty years.

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PRO

Robert Gardiner

Progressive

Mr. GARDINER:

Has the minister put on Hansard already the various sums given to these organizations in the last fiscal year?

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LIB

James Alexander Robb (Minister of Immigration and Colonization)

Liberal

Mr. ROBB:

Last year we paid the Salvation Army $25,000, and we made a payment also to the Scottish Society.

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PRO
LIB
LIB

Samuel William Jacobs

Liberal

Mr. JACOBS:

Is the minister aware

that the government is really running two immigration departments, one a regular department under the Minister of Immigration, and the other an Immigration and Colonization department in connection with the Canadian National Railway Company, which is of course under the control of the government? Could there not be some co-ordination to eliminate duplication? The cost of immigration in connection with the Canadian National Railways is nearly $800,000 and the vote for immigration and colonization under the department of government at present under review amounts to something over $3,000,000. Is it not possible to harmonize the work by eliminating one of these departments? I am sure there must be some duplication. I have in mind the appointment of Dr. Black, who up to a year or so ago was the deputy minister of this department! He resigned and was immediately appointed to a position in the immigration department of the Canadian National Railways. His salary as Deputy Minister of Immigration was $6,000, but he was such a valuable man that Sir Henry Thornton gobbled him up at $15,000.

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LIB

June 11, 1925