June 10, 1925

CON

Arthur Meighen (Leader of the Official Opposition)

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. MEIGHEN:

It is too late then.

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LIB

George Perry Graham (Minister of Railways and Canals)

Liberal

Mr. GRAHAM:

The Canadian National management proceeds under the act passed by my right hon. friend (Mr. Meighen) and if there are any loopholes in it I am not responsible. But, if the Governor in Council approves of this arrangement, the particulars will be given parliament, as parliament has a right to them. The Canadian National Railway board is acting under statute giving it authority to do certain things with the approval of the Governor in Council. We hope to be able to deal with the matter this week, but if the resolution does not proceed the government cannot act one way or the other.

Arctic Exploration

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EDMONTON, DUNVE'GAN AND BRITISH COLUMBIA RAILWAY


On the Orders of the Day: iMr. L. J. LADNER (Vancouver South): Mr. Speaker, I wish to ask the Minister of Railways (Mr. Graham) if any conclusion has been reached in connection with the negotiations for the operation of the Edmonton, Dunvegan and British Columbia railway by the Canadian National Railways, following the expiry of the operating lease now held by the Canadian Pacific Railway? If no conclusion has been reached, what is the standing of the negotiations at the present time? Hon. GEORGE P. GRAHAM (Minister of Railways): Mr. Speaker, if my hon. friend thinks for a moment he will realize that the quarter from which to seek definite information is the Premier of the province of Alberta, who has the leasing of the Edmonton, Dun-vegan and British Columbia railway in his hands. As a matter of fact that railway is now under lease to the Canadian Pacific Railway.


ARCTIC EXPLORATION AND SOVEREIGNTY


On the Orders of the Day:


CON

Henry Herbert Stevens

Conservative (1867-1942)

Hon. H. H. STEVENS (Vancouver Centre) :

Mr. Speaker, I have in my hand a newspaper despatch from. Washington to the New York Times dealing with a matter ,of very considerable importance to Canada. The despatch is rather lengthy and refers to what is known as the MaoMillan-Byrd scientific expedition into 'the Arctic regions this summer by hydroplane, Two important questions are propounded, one being whether Canada has a valid claim to certain lands lying north of the mainland. Then there is this reference:

High officials in Washington reiterated to-day that the Canadian government has not yet raised the question or discussed with this government the matter of claiming all land between Canada and the pole. It is learned, however, that in a recent informal conversation between Lieutenant Commander Byrd and the Canadian commission here, the latter informally asked whether he had obtained a "permit" to land on Axel Heiburg land. To ask Canada for a permit for Commander Byrd's planes to land on Axel Heiburg land would, of course, imply recognition by America of the Canadian claim of sovereignty over that land, and seems to necessitate decision by this government-

That is, the United States government.

-as to whether it considers that Canada has a valid claim to that region.

Has the Prime Minister any information to furnish as to whether the government of Canada has made any representations to the government K*f the United States on the subject? If no action has been .taken, is there

not a grave danger that the right of Canada to large areas in the north-at present not deemed very valuable, but which in the future may be so-will be jeopardized?

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LIB

Charles A. Stewart (Minister of Mines; Minister of the Interior; Superintendent-General of Indian Affairs)

Liberal

Hon. CHARLES STEWART (Minister of the Interior):

IMr. Speaker, this government has been very much alive to what we claim to be the possessions of Canada in the northern territory adjacent to the Dominion. Indeed, I made the statement in the House the other evening (that we claimed all the territory lying between meridians 60 and 141. This afternoon when dealing with the estimates of the Department of the Interior I propose to bring down a map to make it clear what precautions we are taking to establish ourselves in that territory and to notify the nationals of foreign countries passing over it that we think Canada should be advised of their plans and that they should ask for permits from the Canadian government. That is the extent to which we have gone at the moment. I might say further to my hon. friend from Vancouver Centre that some considerable time ago a despatch dealing with the subject was sent to Washington, to which we have had no reply.

ALTERNATIVE VOTE On the Orders of the Day:

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PRO

Robert Alexander Hoey

Progressive

Mr. R. A. HOEY (Springfield):

Can the Prime Minister foil us, Mr. Speaker, when we may expect the government to proceed with the legislation dealing with the single transferable vote? I'understand that the Prime Minister, near the close of last session, gave a definite promise that the matter would be dealt with some time this session, of which we are getting pretty near the close.

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LIB

William Lyon Mackenzie King (Prime Minister; President of the Privy Council; Secretary of State for External Affairs)

Liberal

Right Hon. W. L. MACKENZIE KING (Prime Minister):

As my hon. friend is aware, there are two bills on the order paper relating to the Dominion Elections Act. One is before a committee of the House at the present time. As soon as the committee reports it is our intention to proceed with that bill, and when it is concluded we will take up the measure dealing with the single transferable vote.

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PRO

Robert Alexander Hoey

Progressive

Mr. HOEY:

It will be disposed of this

session, then?

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LIB

William Lyon Mackenzie King (Prime Minister; President of the Privy Council; Secretary of State for External Affairs)

Liberal

Mr. MACKENZIE KING:

It depends on how long it takes. We have a good deal of material before us. We are going ahead as fast as we can.

EXPORT OF POWER On the Orders of the Day:

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CON

Henry Lumley Drayton

Conservative (1867-1942)

Sir HENRY DRAYTON (West York):

Mr. Speaker, may I ask my hon. friend the Min-

Rhine Frontier

ister of Trade and Commerce (Mr. Low) whether he has yet had an opportunity to get out that order in connection with exempting the Ontario Hydro-Electric Commission from taxation on the export of electricity?

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LIB

Thomas Andrew Low (Minister of Trade and Commerce)

Liberal

Hon. T. A. LOW (Minister of Trade and Commerce):

No order has been passed.

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CON

Henry Lumley Drayton

Conservative (1867-1942)

Sir HENRY DRAYTON:

Is there anything I can do or that anyone else can do to help, Mr. Speaker?

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RHINE FRONTIER


On the Orders of the Day:


LAB

James Shaver Woodsworth

Labour

Mr. J. S. WOODSWORTH (Centre Winnipeg) :

Mr. Speaker, yesterday I asked the

Prime Minister whether Canada was a party to any security pact with France with regard to the Rhineland. I should like to have the assurance of the Prime Minister as to whether Canada is under any obligation with regard to the security pact which has recently been made, and how soon he can give us a statement as to the exact position which Canada has taken in this matter.

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LIB

William Lyon Mackenzie King (Prime Minister; President of the Privy Council; Secretary of State for External Affairs)

Liberal

Right Hon. W. L. MACKENZIE KING (Prime Minister):

I do not know that I can give my hon. friend any more explicit information than that no compact or treaty that I know of has been entered into as yet. What has taken place in respect to the matter to which my hon. friend refers is that Great Britain and France have together negotiated the basis of an agreement for further negotiations with Germany. The discussions in Europe between Great Britain and France have had relation to the possible framing of a security pact, one condition of which is that Germany shall be a member of the League of Nations. The government has been kept informed of these negotiations between Great Britain and France, blit our opinion has not been asked upon them, nor have we been requested to express any view as to what Canada's attitude may or may not be. Until asked and until some expression of view is requested, the government does not propose to precipitate itself into a discussion that is taking place in Great Britain and of which we have no knowledge beyond what has come to us in the manner that I have just described.

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