June 2, 1925

CON

Arthur Meighen (Leader of the Official Opposition)

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. MEIGHEN:

I have the letter, and

will put it on Hansard.

Topic:   SUPPLY-TARIFF REVISION MOTION IN AMENDMENT PRESENTED BY RIGHT HON. MR. MEIGHEN
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Frank S. Cahill

Liberal

Mr. CAHILL:

What is the date of it?

Topic:   SUPPLY-TARIFF REVISION MOTION IN AMENDMENT PRESENTED BY RIGHT HON. MR. MEIGHEN
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Arthur Meighen (Leader of the Official Opposition)

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. MEIGHEN:

The 12th of April. I

wrote similar letters to manufacturers of farm implements. Their replies were along the same line in every case, I think, but one, and I am not sure as ;o that; but I have not the file before me.

Topic:   SUPPLY-TARIFF REVISION MOTION IN AMENDMENT PRESENTED BY RIGHT HON. MR. MEIGHEN
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William Lyon Mackenzie King (Prime Minister; President of the Privy Council; Secretary of State for External Affairs)

Liberal

Mr. MACKENZIE KING:

What was that one?

Topic:   SUPPLY-TARIFF REVISION MOTION IN AMENDMENT PRESENTED BY RIGHT HON. MR. MEIGHEN
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CON

Arthur Meighen (Leader of the Official Opposition)

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. MEIGHEN:

I do not recall; it was

not important.

Topic:   SUPPLY-TARIFF REVISION MOTION IN AMENDMENT PRESENTED BY RIGHT HON. MR. MEIGHEN
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William Lyon Mackenzie King (Prime Minister; President of the Privy Council; Secretary of State for External Affairs)

Liberal

Mr. MACKENZIE KING:

Perhaps my

right hon. friend would put the file cn Hansard?

Topic:   SUPPLY-TARIFF REVISION MOTION IN AMENDMENT PRESENTED BY RIGHT HON. MR. MEIGHEN
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Arthur Meighen (Leader of the Official Opposition)

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. MEIGHEN:

I am sorry to say that in some way the file has got out of my office. I do not know how, and I do net want to cast any aspersions.

Topic:   SUPPLY-TARIFF REVISION MOTION IN AMENDMENT PRESENTED BY RIGHT HON. MR. MEIGHEN
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Thomas Alexander Crerar

Progressive

Mr. CRERAR:

I did not take it.

Topic:   SUPPLY-TARIFF REVISION MOTION IN AMENDMENT PRESENTED BY RIGHT HON. MR. MEIGHEN
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Arthur Meighen (Leader of the Official Opposition)

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. MEIGHEN:

I do not think the member for Marquette (Mr. Crerar) would be influenced by any file. I am afraid he is in the class described by his leader (Mr. Forke) in his speech on the budget-those who cannot by any process of reasoning be made to agree with the protectionist doctrine.

Topic:   SUPPLY-TARIFF REVISION MOTION IN AMENDMENT PRESENTED BY RIGHT HON. MR. MEIGHEN
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Thomas Alexander Crerar

Progressive

Mr. CRERAR:

That is too pessimistic.

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Arthur Meighen (Leader of the Official Opposition)

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. MEIGHEN:

I do hope, however, that

if reason fails experience may succeed. I read the following, which in substance was included in the letter from (he same writer to myself. It appeared in Industrial Canada of January, 1925, and is written by Arthur F. White of the firm of George White & Sons Company, Limited, London:

Conditions in connection with the farm machinery trade in our locality could not be worse. We are simply marking time until such time as there is a guarantee of some stability in the tariff and the present buying power of the farmer improves.

Production of farm machinery has been reduced fully 50 per cent in 1924, partially owing to the tariff, and partially to general conditions.

Farm products are selling at a good price on the local markets, but the purchasing power of the general public is greatly reduced owing to so much unemplov-

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ment. If there was a reasonable protection on fariy machinery, the unemployment situation would be greatly improved.

And I read this from Mr. Gigax, manager of the Matthew Moody & Sons Company, of Terrebonne, Quebec:

In our case, irrespective of the fact that we had a larger organization than in the previous year-

That is, in 1923.

-our sales were only 25 per cent of what they were bhat year, due to the matter of advanced datings, long terms and cuts in price that were made.

With reference to our Quebec business, due to the fact that special tools used only in this territory are largely sold, the effect has not been so marked, excepting that we are only running with approximately one-half the number of men, due to lack of sales.

In every community where there is an agricultural implement factory, there are hundreds of idle men; in our town 50 per cent of the population is idle.

Topic:   SUPPLY-TARIFF REVISION MOTION IN AMENDMENT PRESENTED BY RIGHT HON. MR. MEIGHEN
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William Lyon Mackenzie King (Prime Minister; President of the Privy Council; Secretary of State for External Affairs)

Liberal

Mr. MACKENZIE KING:

I am not quite sure from whom that first letter was that my right hon. friend read.

Topic:   SUPPLY-TARIFF REVISION MOTION IN AMENDMENT PRESENTED BY RIGHT HON. MR. MEIGHEN
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Arthur Meighen (Leader of the Official Opposition)

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. MEIGHEN:

Arthur F. White. It

was not a letter; it was an article, I said, in Industrial Canada.

IMr. MACKENZIE KING: Is it the mem-Tber for London?

Topic:   SUPPLY-TARIFF REVISION MOTION IN AMENDMENT PRESENTED BY RIGHT HON. MR. MEIGHEN
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Arthur Meighen (Leader of the Official Opposition)

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. MEIGHEN:

Oh, no relation at all.

The hon. gentleman does not need to look to relatives, but I could quote from many relatives of hon. gentlemen opposite directly against my right hon. friend's policy. If I could speak the minds of many a one opposite I could quote them directly against his policy, too. My eye is on some of them .at this very minute.

Topic:   SUPPLY-TARIFF REVISION MOTION IN AMENDMENT PRESENTED BY RIGHT HON. MR. MEIGHEN
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James Alexander Robb (Minister of Immigration and Colonization)

Liberal

Mr. ROBB:

Before my right hon. friend

'leaves the agricultural implement business-

Topic:   SUPPLY-TARIFF REVISION MOTION IN AMENDMENT PRESENTED BY RIGHT HON. MR. MEIGHEN
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Arthur Meighen (Leader of the Official Opposition)

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. MEIGHEN:

I may say I referred

among others to the hon. Acting Minister of Finance (Mr. Robb).

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James Alexander Robb (Minister of Immigration and Colonization)

Liberal

Mr. ROBB:

Perhaps his correspondance

would explain why it is that there were $5,000,000 less imports from the United States in 1925 than in 1924 and there were $2,000,000 greater exports.

Topic:   SUPPLY-TARIFF REVISION MOTION IN AMENDMENT PRESENTED BY RIGHT HON. MR. MEIGHEN
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Arthur Meighen (Leader of the Official Opposition)

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. MEIGHEN:

Yes, there were less

imports and there was less home production as well. They were all coming down, and that is the significance of the policy. It is not wholly the consequence; I know there was less farm production last year and there was less need of increased implement provision. But the home production went down to a greater degree than did the importation.

Topic:   SUPPLY-TARIFF REVISION MOTION IN AMENDMENT PRESENTED BY RIGHT HON. MR. MEIGHEN
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James Alexander Robb (Minister of Immigration and Colonization)

Liberal

Mr. ROBB:

But the exports; how do you explain that?

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Arthur Meighen (Leader of the Official Opposition)

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. MEIGHEN:

Well, the exports had gone down to nearly nothing. Certain industries in Canada did get some orders last year, but I have letters from at least one of those who got them, and the prospect for the future which these letters hold out is anything but bright, and the castigation of this government in those letters would certainly be wholesome reading for the Acting Minister of Finance. And what is more, the larger orders would be taken the year before, and before the reduction of last year took place.

Now, what are the general results of what has been going on? I took up when I spoke last the question of industrial failures in our country-I mean failures of manufacturing industries. I showed that according to R. G. Dull and 'Company, in two years and a fraction, uip to the 20th of August of last year, the date on which I spoke in Stratford, there had been something over 2,000 failures. At the time the Prime Minister answered me by saying-and perhaps the same answer is coming again-

Topic:   SUPPLY-TARIFF REVISION MOTION IN AMENDMENT PRESENTED BY RIGHT HON. MR. MEIGHEN
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June 2, 1925