May 28, 1925

LIB

William Richard Motherwell (Minister of Agriculture)

Liberal

Mr. MOTHERWELL:

I do not know how a legal mind would interpret that, but it is the way the draftsman put it. To clarify and to refine are practically the same process. The definition of "renovated butter" is made to include butter which has been melted and rechurned without clarifying. Many of these processes mean melting down.

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PRO

John Livingstone Brown

Progressive

Mr. BROWN:

Is the rechurning an

essential part of the process in any case?

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LIB

William Richard Motherwell (Minister of Agriculture)

Liberal

Mr. MOTHERWELL:

Yes. I think my hon. friend knows that himself.

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PRO
LIB

William Richard Motherwell (Minister of Agriculture)

Liberal

Mr. MOTHERWELL:

Rechurning, by incorporating the old material with the new, used to be practised more in years gone by than it i9 to-day.

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LIB

William Richard Motherwell (Minister of Agriculture)

Liberal

Mr. MOTHERWELL:

Clarifying and refining are looked upon as practically the same process. It simply means skimming the residue off the top as you do when making maple syrup.

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PRO

Thomas Wakem Caldwell

Progressive

Mr. CALDWELL:

That, I imagine, would be like the froth on "4.4."

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LIB

William Richard Motherwell (Minister of Agriculture)

Liberal

Mr. MOTHERWELL:

I have no experience, myself, of that.

_ Mr. BROWN: But the clarifying or refining in itself would not constitute renovated butter?

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LIB

William Richard Motherwell (Minister of Agriculture)

Liberal

Mr. MOTHERWELL:

No, it is the rechurning with those other processes which constitutes renovated butter.

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PRO

John Livingstone Brown

Progressive

Mr. BROWN:

Then it is very doubtful

if this language expresses what is intended.

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LIB

William Richard Motherwell (Minister of Agriculture)

Liberal

Mr. MOTHERWELL:

If there is any

doubt about it we will let the paragraph stand.

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CON

Arthur Meighen (Leader of the Official Opposition)

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. MEIGHEN:

The minister can cure

it in a second by putting in the words "in any case" after "and."

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LIB

William Richard Motherwell (Minister of Agriculture)

Liberal

Mr. MOTHERWELL:

Then I move to

amend the paragraph by inserting between the words "and" and "rechumed" the words "in any case." The paragraph will now read:

(k) "renovated butter" or "process butter" means any butter which has been melted or clarified or refined and in any case rechurned.

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Amendment agreed to. . Paragraph as amended agreed to. On section 1, subsection 2, paragraph (o)- Dominion analyst.


CON

Arthur Meighen (Leader of the Official Opposition)

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. MEIGHEN:

Was this defined before?

Mr. MOTHER'W ELL: I think I explained that on the resolution. We have a number of Dominion analysts under salary, and others who are appointed by order in council without salary, but their appointment is an assurance to the public that we recognize them as competent men to whom samples may be sent for correct analysis.

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Thomas Langton Church

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. CHURCH:

It seems to me that this legislation gives the Dominion officials very wide jurisdiction, and its exercise may enhance the price of dairy products, which, goodness knows, are already very high. This being a subject of Concurrent jurisdiction between the Dominion and the provinces, has the minister consulted the Justice department as to whether this legislation is ultra vires of parliament? Do not the provincial governments maintain officials to do this work? And who has been complaining and requesting this legislation?

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LIB

George Newcombe Gordon (Deputy Speaker and Chair of Committees of the Whole of the House of Commons)

Liberal

The CHAIRMAN:

The hon. gentleman's;

questions scarcely come under this section.

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LIB

William Richard Motherwell (Minister of Agriculture)

Liberal

Mr. MOTHERWELL:

This is a general'

law for the Dominion and is applicable largely' to dairy products intended for export, so it is entirely a federal matter.

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CON

Arthur Meighen (Leader of the Official Opposition)

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. MEIGHEN:

Does the minister mean to include under this paragraph a seed analyst?

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May 28, 1925