May 26, 1925

LIB

William Richard Motherwell (Minister of Agriculture)

Liberal

Mr. MOTHERWELL:

Yes.

Animal Contagious Diseases

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Arthur Meighen (Leader of the Official Opposition)

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. MEIGHEN:

How does the new maximum work out? Has it been satisfactory?

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LIB

William Richard Motherwell (Minister of Agriculture)

Liberal

Mr. MOTHERWELL:

Yes. A few people will think it too high, and a few people consider it too low; therefore we conclude it is just about right.

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George Gibson Coote

Progressive

Mr. COOTE:

How much was paid last year under this provision?

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LIB

William Richard Motherwell (Minister of Agriculture)

Liberal

Mr. MOTHERWELL:

I think we paid

between $600,000 and $700,000. I have not the figures here.

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CON

Donald Sutherland

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. SUTHERLAND:

Will the minister

explain how the line is drawn between animals which eventually go to slaughter? Although pure bred their usefulness is at an end; in any event they would be slaughtered for beef or some such purpose. Is the value fixed on the basis of their value as breeding animals? Animals might be pure bred and not good breeders, consequently would not be of any greater value than grade animals.

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LIB

William Richard Motherwell (Minister of Agriculture)

Liberal

Mr. MOTHERWELL:

It is just exactly

the same as we would value it if we were going down to buy it. We have an age limit in males, we take the quality of pedigree and the conformation of the animal. All these things enter into the value. The very best will bring the maximum and the others will bring a value in proportion.

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CON

Arthur Meighen (Leader of the Official Opposition)

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. MEIGHEN:

Does that apply only to cattle?

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LIB

William Richard Motherwell (Minister of Agriculture)

Liberal

Mr. MOTHERWELL:

Horses, sheep and

swine also.

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Arthur Meighen (Leader of the Official Opposition)

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. MEIGHEN:

But those figures applv

only to cattle and not to other animals. I have never been able to get the principle of this thing. As I understand the legislation it applies to cattle, horses, sheep and swine, but not to all cattle.

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CON

Arthur Meighen (Leader of the Official Opposition)

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. MEIGHEN:

Then it is not based

on the principle of compensation at all. I do not know what it is based on; apparently it is only applied to such cattle as will breed. If there is a principle behind it, I do not know what it is.

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LIB

William Richard Motherwell (Minister of Agriculture)

Liberal

Mr. MOTHERWELL:

I will explain it.

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Arthur Meighen (Leader of the Official Opposition)

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. MEIGHEN:

And will the minister

give us the explanation with regard to the other clauses?

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LIB

William Richard Motherwell (Minister of Agriculture)

Liberal

Mr. MOTHERWELL:

Yes. Take the

city of Ottawa: all herds supplying milk to the city of Ottawa come under the municipal test clause and are tested, and in the case of any animals that go down for tuberculosis the owners are compensated. Then we have the accredited herd system. We have something like two or three thousand and they are all pure bred. This provides for a class of pure bred animals, so that when they are sold about the country they will not scatter disease. Another class we call the restricted area. We have one of these areas in Manitoba, and we took it up at the request of two-thirds of the live stock men of that district. We took all animals, no matter of what kind, pure bred or whatever they were, and cleaned up the tuberculosis entirely in what we called the restricted area. We have one of these areas in Carman, Manitoba, one in Huntingdon, Quebec, and we are starting one in Prince Edward Island. In addition to that we have another system of supervising, where no compensation is given, but simply inspection. The schedule is contained in clause 6 of the old act, and this is re-enacted as follows:

The minister may order a compensation to be paid to the owners of animals Slaughtered under the provisions of this act; and in all cases the value of the animal for which compensation is ordered shall be determined by the minister or by some person appointed by him, but, except as hereinafter provided, such value shall not exceed, in the case of gratae animals, one hundred and fifty dolllars for each horse, sixty dollars for each head of cattle, and fifteen dollars for each pig or sheep; and in the case of pure bred animals, three hundred dollars for each horse, one hundred and fifty dollars for each head of cattle, and fifty dollars for each pig or sheep.

Those are the maxima for the several classes of animal.

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Arthur Meighen (Leader of the Official Opposition)

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. MEIGHEN:

Those are different

figures from what the minister gave us; they are much larger. The minister read $300 for horses and $200 for cattle, but he told us the maximum for cattle was $150.

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LIB

William Richard Motherwell (Minister of Agriculture)

Liberal

Mr. MOTHERWELL:

This is the same

section, No. 22. The amendment to that for pure bred is $150.

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Arthur Meighen (Leader of the Official Opposition)

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. MEIGHEN:

That is the old act?

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LIB

William Richard Motherwell (Minister of Agriculture)

Liberal

Mr. MOTHERWELL:

Yes.

Resolution reported, read the second time and concurred in. Mr. Motherwell thereupon moved for leave to introduce Bill No. 150, to amend the Animal Contagious Diseases Act.

Motion agreed to and bill read the first time.

Soldier Settlement Act

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May 26, 1925