May 15, 1925

PRO

Thomas Wakem Caldwell

Progressive

Mr. CALDWELL:

No. The Canada Food board. I am speaking of the reliability of the statistics. Immediately after the report was issued, the price dropped to $1.50 a ban-el, and within three weeks it went down to 80 cents and it continued so during the whole winter. Instead of exporting 28,000,000 bushels, we exported the usual quantity of 4,000,000 bushels, and there was a shortage in other places with the result that in April, after the New Brunswick crop was all sold, the price rose to as high as $7 a barrel because there were none to be had. That year I claim-and I have made this statement more than once in this House-that they beat the potato producers in New Brunswick out of a profitable price for their potatoes. It cost about $1.50 a barrel to grow them in New Brunswick and the price was 80 cents a barrel. If that report had not been issued, potatoes would have been selling at $2 a barrel. Our supply ran short in March and we did not have enough to supply the market during the shortage in other countries.

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LIB

William Richard Motherwell (Minister of Agriculture)

Liberal

Mr. MOTHERWELL:

Is that not an argument in favour of getting information through a really reliable source?

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PRO

Thomas Wakem Caldwell

Progressive

Mr. CALDWELL:

Yes. But I think we

should be absolutely sure of the reliability before the statistics are published. That report did us more damage in New Brunswick than we have recovered from since.

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PRO

John Pritchard

Progressive

Mr. PRITCHARD:

Has this item anj

connection with a vote passed this afternoon in regard to the grant to the Imperial Institute? That was in the estimates of the Minister of the Interior (Mr. Stewart).

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LIB

William Richard Motherwell (Minister of Agriculture)

Liberal

Mr. MOTHERWELL:

It has no connection. Each department runs its own show.

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PRO

Henry Elvins Spencer

Progressive

Mr. SPENCER:

In the co-ordinating of

these two departments, how many employees has the minister been able to let out?

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LIB

William Richard Motherwell (Minister of Agriculture)

Liberal

Mr. MOTHERWELL:

Three altogether,

the director and two of the staff. We are retaining the librarian and three others, and the work is all under the assistant deputy minister.

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PRO

Henry Elvins Spencer

Progressive

Mr. SPENCER:

Was the minister able

by this to let out the institute commissioner?

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LIB

William Richard Motherwell (Minister of Agriculture)

Liberal

Mr. MOTHERWELL:

Yes, but that comes out of civil government. It does not show in this reduction.

Supply-A gricul ture

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PRO

Henry Elvins Spencer

Progressive

Mr. SPENCER:

Was he giving satisfaction, or was he let out because he was not giving satisfaction?

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LIB

William Richard Motherwell (Minister of Agriculture)

Liberal

Mr. MOTHERWELL:

I could give two or three reasons that would all be true, but the principal reason is that there was never any necessity for a branch there at all as far as I could see. As in some other cases, it was established for the purpose of giving someone a position. There was no justification for a separate. branch.

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LIB

William Richard Motherwell (Minister of Agriculture)

Liberal

Mr. MOTHERWELL:

I promised the

committee last j'ear that I would try to consolidate the work, and this I am endeavouring to do all along the line.

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PRO

Donald MacBeth Kennedy

Progressive

Mr. KENNEDY (Edmonton):

Is not the institute largely a statistical organization?

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PRO

Donald MacBeth Kennedy

Progressive

Mr. KENNEDY (Edmonton):

Why should it not be linked up with the Bureau of Statistics? It would seem to be a wise thing to have all the statistical branches of the government together.

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LIB

William Richard Motherwell (Minister of Agriculture)

Liberal

Mr. MOTHERWELL:

I discussed the

matter with the Minister of Trade and Commerce (Mr. Low), but if I handed the work over to him it would inflate his expenses. It was discussed just before we were preparing the estimates and we decided to let it stay as it was. Of course, all information in regard to agriculture as well as other industries, so far as exports are concerned, is compiled through the Department of Trade and Commerce. That is where the director of this institute gets his information for transmission to Rome.

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PRO

Henry Elvins Spencer

Progressive

Mr. SPENCER:

Did not the institute publish a Bulletin of Foreign Intelligence, advertising what was going on through the institute at Rome? If so, is that still being sent out?

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LIB

William Richard Motherwell (Minister of Agriculture)

Liberal

Mr. MOTHERWELL:

We ourselves do

not'publish any bulletin of this description; it is published at the head office at Rome and distributed throughout Canada. That is the part of the service they give in return for the money they get.

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PRO

Henry Elvins Spencer

Progressive

Mr. SPENCER:

I was informed that formerly 13,000 copies were sent out. Has that number been reduced?

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May 15, 1925