If the rates are so high, on the other hand, that foreign goods are excluded from the country a tax is still extorted from the people in the shape of higher prices for everything they use.
Now let us get along. I, heard in this House a gentleman from the northwest, whose name I do not recall at the moment, describe the situation concerning a carload of butter shipped from some point in Alberta to New York. By the time the freight and duty was paid, he said, there was very little left for the producer. Now what does that mean? Does that mean the consumer in the United States paid that duty on butter, or does it mean the producer paid it? But that does not by any means exhaust the matter. You can take almost any line of goods. I call as my next witness my very good friend the hon. member for Lunenburg (Mr. Duff), who, everybody will admit, is a perfect free trader, except on the matter of coal. What does he say?
The United States have a duty of from $1.60 to $2 per one hundred pounds on fish.
I ask this question: Do the United States people pay the duty on fish that goes in there from Nova Scotia? According to my friends from the west, they do; the consumer always pays the tax. The hon. member for Lunenburg goes on-Hansard 1923, page 112:
For instance, the business in which I am mostly interested, fish, is hard hit, a duty of $1.60 per hundred pounds having been imposed on salt dry fish, and on salt fish, herring, mackerel and so on, a prohibitive duty of 2 cents a pound. The result is that anybody who ships these goods to the United States receives that much less for them, because the price governing fish is not fixed in the same way as the price on grain or manufactured products, that is, the price of fish is fixed in the foreign market, and consequently the shipper has to pay the duty.
I hope I understand the English language.