Mr. L. H. MARTELL (Hants):
heard the argument submitted by my hon. friend from St. James (Mr. Rinfret). There
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are many members on my own side of the House for whom I have great respect. One is the hon. member for St. James, and another, is my hon. friend from Cape Breton South and Richmond (Mr. Carroll). But when we are placing upon the statute book of this country prohibitory legislation, then I think my hon. friend from Brant (Mr. Good) has introduced a first-class piece of legislation, and I hope as a result of his resolution a law will be placed on the statute book. It is a great thing that we on this side of the House, led by my right hon. friend (Mr. Mackenzie King), can afford to disagree among ourselves on a matter of great public interest. The hon. member for Brant is introducing into this House a very important piece of legislation, and has argued forcibly I think in support of it. The hon. member for St. James has presented a good argument from his standpoint; but we are not getting fair racing as a result of the legislation that exists to-day. It is all very well to say that if we endeavour to put restrictions upon the racing of horses we are going to prevent the breeding of good horses in Canada. That is not the case. There is not a member of this House-not even the hon. member for Brant-who is against horse racing. I do not think he would say he is against it, but what he is opposed to is the fact that there is an organized system in this country of cheating the people at races. That is all there is to it. You go to a horse race and what do you find? You look at the odds. You have twenty to one shots and you have thirty to one shots; you have a certain horse which is placed at two to one, a second horse at certain odds, a third horse at. certain odds, and I am very much convinced of the fact that there is some person who knows exactly what home is going to win. That is what I think the hon. member for Brant (Mr. Good) is trying to prevent. He is not trying to prohibit good old-fashioned, honest horse racing which many of us have been accustomed to seeing. In the winter-time we could go to our pond or to our river and we could see farmers bringing out their horses. We could all subscribe a certain amount of money to furnish prizes for those horses, first, second and third. The passing of the resolution of my hon. friend does not prevent that. The same thing happens in the summertime. You can go to a race track and you can subscribe prizes and witness a genuine horse race. That is the sort of horse race that encourages the breeding of horses in this country, but when we get back to the organized system of gambling 43i
legalized by parliament it is absolutely wrong. That is the reason I oppose it at the present time. I do not believe in prohibition in anything. I believe we were given by the Great Divine Creator a certain amount of reasonable intelligence, but this reasonable intelligence should not be permitted to be used in excess for the purpose of the aggrandizement of certain people of the country in order to make money at the expense of other people. For that reason I intend to vote for the resolution of the hon. member for Brant, much as I respect the hon. member for St. James.
Subtopic: RACE TRACK BETTING
Sub-subtopic: MOTION BY MR. GOOD TO AMEND THE CRIMINAL CODE