June 23, 1924

LIB

George Newcombe Gordon (Deputy Speaker and Chair of Committees of the Whole of the House of Commons)

Liberal

The CHAIRMAN:

It is not in this vote.

The question is out of order.

Sup-ply-Immigration

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PRO

Edward Joseph Garland

Progressive

Mr. GARLAND (Bow River):

Just a

minute ago the minister informed the committee that a certain sum around fifteen or nineteen thousand dollars was included in this vote for salaries. We now find that there is a vote for exhibitions, salaries and contingencies, 3140,000. On further examination the minister stated that the total for salaries was $91,800. An explanation would, perhaps be in order.

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LIB

James Alexander Robb (Minister of Immigration and Colonization)

Liberal

Mr. ROBB:

My hon. friend must realize that the British Empire Exhibition is a separate account. There will be charged up to it the permanent staff, a vast number of char women who are engaged all the time in keeping the building in proper shape, and labourers, some of whom are engaged for a few hours. The hon. member has overlooked that feature.

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PRO

Edward Joseph Garland

Progressive

Mr. GARLAND (Bow River):

What is

the total of the salary bill?

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LIB

James Alexander Robb (Minister of Immigration and Colonization)

Liberal

Mr. ROBB:

I will give the details:

A. W. Tolmie, Exhibition Commissioner.. .. $4,320

A. W. Despard, Chief of Agricultural and

Exhibit Division 3,240

W. D. Dalglish, Chief of Mineral Division.. 3,240

J. O. Turcotte, Chief of Designing and Decorating Division 3,240

Mr. Turcotte is one of the most valuable men in that class of work. In recent years the great success of Canada's exhibits has been largely due to Mr. Turcotte. who is in this work a specialist in a class all by himself.

A. Pereira, Assistant to Chief of Designing and

Decorating Division $2,340

P. A. Corkery, Fruit Exhibit Specialist, (Transferred from Civil government salaries) 2,040

R. G. Brown, Exhibit Decorator 1,365

Miss. E. M. Livingston, Clerk Stenographer.. 1,140

O. Joubame, Caretaker 1,080

Total $22,005

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Item agreed to. Exhibitions-salaries and contingencies, $140,000.


CON

Donald Sutherland

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. SUTHERLAND:

Is any of this

amount for exhibitions in the United States?

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LIB

James Alexander Robb (Minister of Immigration and Colonization)

Liberal

Mr. ROBB:

Yes.

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CON

Donald Sutherland

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. SUTHERLAND:

What amount is being expended for this purpose in different countries?

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LIB

James Alexander Robb (Minister of Immigration and Colonization)

Liberal

Mr. ROBB:

Exhibitions at state and

county fairs in the United States, $50,000, and permanent exhibits in the United States, $5,000.

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PRO

Henry Elvins Spencer

Progressive

Mr. SPENCER:

What comes under contingencies?

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LIB

James Alexander Robb (Minister of Immigration and Colonization)

Liberal

Mr. ROBB:

Collection of exhibits, materials for same, certain wage expenses, freight, express and so forth. Some of the exhibits might be destroyed.

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CON

Donald Sutherland

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. SUTHERLAND:

What amount was spent in the United States last year?

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LIB

James Alexander Robb (Minister of Immigration and Colonization)

Liberal

Mr. ROBB:

I have not the details. I will get them and send them to my hon. friend if he is interested.

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PRO

Edward Joseph Garland

Progressive

Mr. GARLAND (Bow River):

What other exhibitions did the department send representatives to and have expenses in connection with last year?

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LIB

James Alexander Robb (Minister of Immigration and Colonization)

Liberal

Mr. ROBB:

We spent $926.10 on an exhibit at Paris at the conclusion of the French train that was run under the Department of Trade and Commerce.

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Edward Joseph Garland

Progressive

Mr. GARLAND (Bow River):

Is that the only additional exhibition that was attended by representatives of the government last year? Was there none in the United States, for example?

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LIB

James Alexander Robb (Minister of Immigration and Colonization)

Liberal

Mr. ROBB:

We have exhibits in other countries as well as in the United States. We have exhibits at many fairs in Scotland, Ireland and England. We have some exhibits on the continent. We have exhibits on the little boats that go through Holland. We had some in Belgium last year.

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CON

Robert King Anderson

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. ANDERSON:

Is any of this money to be spent for exhibitions in this country?

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LIB

James Alexander Robb (Minister of Immigration and Colonization)

Liberal

Mr. ROBB:

No.

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June 23, 1924